Black Screen when Booting Game #17
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Do you have a USB drive or MX4SIO connected to your PS2? If so remove them, then try launching a game again. If that doesn't resolve the problem then post the game-installer.log here and I'll take a look. |
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Looks like the game install went okay. I've added a lot more error handling recently to the PSBBN installer script. I recommend updating to the latest version with |
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Doesn't look like there is anything wrong with the PSBBN install or the game install. It must be an OPL issue. Try launching the games directly with OPL. Make sure you enable the HDD under BDM Devices in the OPL settings:
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Try multiple games to make sure it is not an isolated issue with just one game. |
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I've had the normal OPL installed in the past (it's configs are deleted now) with no issues on this same SSD. |
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That confirms it's an OPL issue. You're the 3rd person to have this problem and the solution for them was to use a different HDD/SSD... But let's do a little more troubleshooting. Can you put the drive in your PC, format it as exFAT, copy the games to a DVD or CD folder and try OPL again without PSBBN? Boot the console with FreeMCBoot, and launch the version of OPNPS2LD.ELF from this repository. It's too big to fit on a memory card so you'll have to put it on a USB thumb drive. Let me know if the games show up in OPL after that. |
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Having done some research after testing both the A400 and a samsung 850 evo, people have said it's the drives' manufacturer firmware conflicting with the SCE HDD commands. |
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I will try that later on. Is there anything different I need to do for this specific version of OPL? I use FreeHDBoot with the same SSD as I have done before this installation, with a __mbr.raw having been written to it in the past during the first installation of FreeHDBoot. I don't own a FMCB memory card. |
Insane, with no current workaround too... is there any other SSD of the same size you would recommend? |
It could just be how ps2sdk handles the ATA commands I'm not sure but yeah it sucks when you've got no clue as to what drives will work fine and what drives won't. Apparently NHDDL + Neutrino works? (I'll have to test it) |
In that case you would have to install FreeHDBoot then make a FreeMCBoot card. |
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It's strange, I have this running on a Kingston A400 240G and a Kingston A400 960G with no issues. Guess I'll have to stop recommending the A400 now. Perhaps there's been a recent change in their firmware. It would be good if you can try Neutrino to see if your drive works with it. In the new year I plan to add Neutrino as an option. It does seem that the amount of incompatible drives is minimal. I think only 3 people have reported problems. I'll add a note to the readme about incompatible drives. |
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Hi, I have the same issue with my Seagate 2TB hard drive. It worked fine when I originally had FreeMcBoot and OPL installed, however, with PSBBN, any game I launch from Collection just goes to a black screen (PS1 & PS2). They do all show up in Collection, however, when I launch an "empty" game slot and loading OPL, none of my games show up there, even with BDM devices and HDD on as suggested above. Also if I press Triangle on any game within Collection, they all show as only 128MB in size, is this normal or is this an issue with my hard drive causing this? Is there anything I could try to get this to work with my hard drive or would I have to buy another? If so, which one should I go for, as from comments above the A400 is not working either? Many thanks and I hope you have a fantastic Christmas!! 😊 EDIT: Just to add, I installed around 50 games in total, so I went through every single one, and 2 of my PS1 games worked, Wu Tang Shaolin Style & Apocalypse, not sure how or why , but nothing else worked. Just thought I'd let you know. |
This is normal. Those partitions are just "Launcher" partitions; the PS2 and PS1 games are stored on the exFAT partition and the
You could try a different method of connecting the drive to your PC. I would highly recommend a direct SATA connection. I can't recommend any particular drives but from the small number of reports it seems that most drives are compatible.
PS1 games not booting is a completely different issue from PS2 games not booting. Drive compatibility is not the issue. It could be a number of things:
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For anyone experiencing issues launching PS2 games, I recommend trying the Neutrino Launcher NHDDL.
If the games work with Neutrino, I'll start working on a Neutrino-based launcher for PSBBN. |
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exFAT on internal drives is now supported by the latest official build of OPL. If you are having issues, you can also try replacing the OPNPS2LD.ELF on the +OPL partition with the version found here: https://github.com/ps2homebrew/Open-PS2-Loader/releases/tag/latest |
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Hi, I am having the same issue with both CD / DVD PS2 games, after I launch them, black screen, but I am able to boot my PS1 games. I have tested some, and found some texture bugs, for example on Gran Turismo 2 all the cars textures are black and on Driver 2, the load game menu textures are also buggy (any advice to fix this texture bug?). Ive tested the newer OPL version for the PS2 games and it does the same. I also did try launching the games directly from OPL with the recommended settings and the games doesn't show up on game list. I noticed the newer OPL file Ive used its size is 1.3mb and the old one is around 10mb, so i will need to test with the newer version that have PADEMU and Extra features on it (I think its the one used before?). extra question: Before i connect my SSD on linux and install PSBBN, I did format it on Win10 and made it with MBR as partition style, and my question is: is there any difference / problem to use either a GPT or MBR partition? Info: PS2 Fat Silver SCPH-50004 (European) / Original Network adapter+Sata board by bitfunx / SSD MSI Spatium S270 240gb Extra Info: All my games/iso are European versions created with my own discs, at low speed (2x / 4x) to replicate both PS disc drive speed to be sure the discs are OK (I am giving this information just in case this end to be a image/backup problem). Big thx! |
PSBBN uses POPStarter and the POPS emulator for PS1 games. Compatibility is not perfect. You might be able to find help online for specific games.
The version included with this project is not compressed, this speeds up boot times.
No, the PSBBN installer wipes the drive and uses MBR. What I would like you to do:
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I just tested the latest official build of OPL, and the auto-launch function is broken, so it's not quite ready yet. I've submitted a PR, so hopefully, it will be resolved soon. In the meantime, the version of OPL included with this project is the only one that works with the PSBBN Game Channel. |
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If you have the problem with OPL not listing games, try the latest version of the official build. It is now fully compatible with the PSBBN Definitive English Patch. If the problem persists then report it here: bdm hdd not listing games #1437. Hopefully a fix will be found. |
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Hello! I want to share all the information I have gathered in the past days. Some might be irrelevant but... we never know. At the beginning I was using a Oracle VM with Linux Mint Cinnamon installed, to do the PSBBN setup to my MSI SSD connected by USB, but I had to scrap all this because I had almost lost my external HDD and all its data from the connect / disconnect from windows to the virtual machine (windows had lost the permissions to access to the drive somehow). So I installed Linux Mint Cinnamon on an old computer I had, and connected the MSI SSD directly. I installed the Git feature to download the PSBBN (sudo apt install git), and I also installed the updates Linux had available to download. I did all the PSBBN installation and I got no errors. I was able to run it on the PS2, I checked the Konami link and it was working, Ive also downloaded the MGS3 video. The game list was completed, with both PS2 and PS1 games, but only the PS1 games were able to start, both CD / DVD PS2 games went to Black Screen. Opening the OPL launcher didnt show the games list even with the recommended settings previously stated. Ive also tested the last OPL build (v1.2.0-Beta-2197-d5e0998) by placing it on +OPL folder, still do the same. And last, Ive tried to use NHDDL (Ive installed the Standalone version on my Memory card) and it worked. It listed all the PS2 games I had on my SSD, without I do any change, and I was able to play both CD/DVD and DVD-DL games. My SSD PHY-SEC and LOG-SEC are both 512 Thank you very much for this project and all the help you are giving! Have a great year! |
This is great news, as I plan to make a Neutrino Launcher for PSBBN. You could also try Grimdoomer's OPL, apparently that works too. It seems the issue is just a bug with the current build of OPL. No idea why it only affects certain drives. Please report problems with OPL to the official repository. Hopefully, it will be fixed soon. |
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Hey, thanks for your work on this as always. I wanted to submit a fuller report here and include my logs in case it's of any value. I've done a few installs today and I'm not able to launch into games at all atm. No memory cards are inserted into my PS2. No ethernet cable is attached at all. (Does that make a difference for game launching?) Using official network adapter with SATA adapter mod installed into it. First, I tried doing an update to my first installation to see if that would help with launching - no dice, games boot to black screen. Tried a CD PS2 game, DVD PS2 game and a PS1 game - all black screens. Saw the HDD activity light flash and the image flicker on my CRT like it was switching resolutions to start, but no dice. I tried doing a clean install using just your content here and from the installer script itself (so, "stock" OPL) - games showed up in PSBBN, but all black screens still. Booting directly into OPL and no games are recognized in OPL. I saw your suggestions about OPL versions and what I did is get that beta OPL from their git page and replaced the ELF file for OPL in the assets folder with that and did a clean install from there and installed games again. This time all the PSBBN game entries showed up as corrupt data, though the number of entries corresponded to the number of games I had to install. OPL still did not see games off the bat, couldn't launch games from PSBBN or OPL. If I could ask, what is meant by using the Neutrino launcher? I am not so familiar with everything in the PS2 scene, but I'd like to try it since it worked for the person above it seems. These logs are from my last attempt at plugging that newer beta OPL version's ELF file into the psbbn folder on my PC before doing the installation. It was named the same as the included/downloaded OPL ELF file. game-installer.log Any tips are appreciated, but if it's just a matter of waiting for more OPL updates or just calling my drive bad, whatever works for you. Does anyone have a list of new, purchasable drives that work well here? Thanks again for everything!!! |
I can't see anything in the logs that would cause this. Perhaps something when wrong when you replaced the file.
Neutrino is a newer, alternative way of loading game ISOs on PS2 and could be used as a replacement for OPL.
I can’t recommend specific drives because the same drive has worked for some but not for others. The issue appears to be isolated to the latest builds of OPL. However, Neutrino and Grimdoomer’s older OPL build with exFAT support have been shown to work on affected drives, suggesting that a fix is possible. For now, here are three options:
Again, If anyone is experiencing issues with OPL not listing games, update to the latest version here. If the problem persists, please report it here. |
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I have a similar problem as the others, as booting from PSBBN leads to a black screen. When trying to use OPL instead the games, show up but the following message shows up "Error, the game is fragmented"
Also is it normal for this to happen every boot? FYI the console is not connected to the internet. I also have not updated the OPL version. The games do not appear automatically but appear after changing the OPL settings. |
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Your issues are completely unrelated to the topic.
Please report issues with OPL to the OPL GitHub page.
You need to go through the network setup for this message to go away.
This is normal. |
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Also when the games don't launch from the game channel menu? Or do these games launch using OPL? |
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A Neutrino launcher for PSBBN is a long term goal. For the time being, please report OPL issues to the OPL GitHub |
Tried NHDDL and now the 4TB HDD that was previously being corrupted when trying to use OPL now works (and can be remounted on the PC, edited, and used on the PS2 again). With the same USB-SATA adapter. So I'm ditching OPL and I'll give PSBBN another try once it's switched to neutrino! |
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I don’t mean to be a complete noob but how do I update opl on my PSBBN SSD ? |
Download OPNPS2LD.7z from here. Extract the files. Rename the
Keep in mind, if you use wLaunchELF, the next time you run the game installer, OPL will be overwritten with the version from this repository. |
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I also have this issue. Tried with OPL that came packaged with this git and the most recent version of the official build (which currently has an annoying bug where controller input just dies while navigating the menus.) Same issue with black screens while booting any PS2 game, CD/DVD. OPL also doesn't boot from the game channel either, I have to launch it directly via wLaunchElf. It seems so close to working too. I have a MemCardPro 2 and it loads/creates VMCs for any game I try to launch just fine. The games just simply hang right at boot. I haven't tested Neutrino, but Grimdoomer's OPL works perfectly fine so I'm sure it would work as well. US SCPH-50001, Official HDD expansion with Bitfunx SATA mod, Team T Force Vulcan Z 1TB SSD. |
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Seems pretty much an OPL specific issue as I recently tried today without an HDD inserted and either got OPL booting into its GUI without being able to control it or (if no config exists) a black screen. As of right now I have Standalone NHDDL as a Kelf as an application partition (to boot from PSBBN) and Neutrino on my memory card to access my games in the exfat portion of the APA-Jail. Hope the OPL issues get resolved soon or work on an OPL-Launcher style executable for Neutrino gets started |
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Please report the issue on the OPL GitHub here. I am getting loads of reports, but nobody is reporting the issue to the OPL team. The more reports they get, the more likely it is to be fixed. |
ok i downloaded the latest opl build and updated it by running the script and unfortunately still got black screen. I read below that you want people to log this to OPL team as an issue or is there something else I should be trying ? I noticed when I open OPL via the collection screen in PSBBN I only get settings for OPL ,when I press circle.⭕️ it doesn’t do anything to display games. Thank you for all your help. |
Unfortunately I need to wait on them to release another update for the beta branch. My inputs keep dying in OPL's menu so I can't actually enable the HDD, therefore I have no idea if my games will list in the latest OPL beta or not. On top of that, I managed to enable and save the settings before my inputs cut out twice, but both times lead to the save failing. First time it tried to save to mass (I have no USBs plugged in), second time it just said it failed to write settings. I'm stuck until something gets updated unfortunately. On the positive side of things, this is my first time experiencing the BBN and it's really fantastic. Ironically I purchased my PS2 from Japan last year. Midnight Blue model with the HDD and BBN. That was my first time learning about the existence of the BBN. I thought to myself if anyone possibly translated the experience, and now here we are. Thanks for all your hard work with this. |
This is another recent bug with the latest version of OPL. It can be reported here |
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I wasn't having this issue until I pulled down 2.01 tho. I've installed PSBBN 2.0 up until right before that update, and had no OPL issues with the same SSD...... |
The 2.01 update changes the USB keyboard to US English layout and corrects a misspelling. Nothing else. |
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UPDATE: From a report on the OPL GitHub it appears the issue might be related to certain SATA mods not playing nice with certain drives. I have the official Sony Network Adapter, a Kaico SATA mod and a number of Kingston A400 SSDs and they all work for me. Some have reported that the Kingston A400 SSDs haven't worked for them, this leads me to believe it most likely is the SATA mod causing the issues. I've noticed a number of people have mentioned they are using the Bitfunx SATA mod and experience this issue. This bug is however, isolated to OPL. I hope a fix can be found soon. I will start work on a Neutrino launcher in the near future and that will also be an option for people experiencing this issue. |
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Hello :) I'm having the same issue and I thought I'd post my hardware just in case it's helpful. I noticed that when you launch a PS1 game, after the screen goes No Signal, you can press L1, Start and Select and the menu will still pop up! ... Probably doesn't help this situation, but finding it made me feel smart lol Console: Adapter: SSD: Im going to try another SSD tomorrow from a different brand and see if it helps |
Most PS1 games run at 240p and your TV doesn't support that resolution, this is the reason for the "No Signal" message. You have a few options:
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Never mind, turns out I was not experiencing a PSBBN issue at all. I had a dud broadband adapter and/or bitfunx SATA mod. I had another SATA-modded adapter ready and when I switched to that, everything worked. |
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I'm having the same issue. I do wonder if its the sata adapter thats part of the problem. Looking at Kaico's website theirs is a v1.0 but my BitFunX is a v2.0. Perhaps the v2.0 board is to blame? Also I am using a Seagate BarraCuda Compute 2TB hard drive. |
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The PSBBN Neutrino update is finally here! Good new for everyone who was having issues with OPL. See the video for details! |
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The cause of OPL's "bdm hdd not listing games" issue has been found ps2homebrew/Open-PS2-Loader#1437 (comment) The good news is that Neutrino seems to be working well for people using the Bitfunx SATA mod. I'll keep this open until there's a fix for OPL. |
Can add to the confirmation; Neutrino seems to solve issues I was having on one of my SSDs with games failing to launch as well. Great job. |
Does anyone tested v1? I found bitfunx v1 version and if it works I can buy it, does v1 supports 1tb ssd? I like opl more than netrino cause of more features |
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Update: For exFAT support on OPL, your SATA mod/drive needs to support UDMA 6. You can use PS2HDDTester to find out what your setup supports. Run the app and select
If your you get PASSED on UDMA 6 then OPL will work, otherwise it will not. Neutrino uses UDMA 4 so should be good for all setups. |
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It seems like @pcm720 has implemented a solution for this in their fork of OPL. I took the automated build from there and tested it with a Micron BX500 1TB SSD and a Sony Network Adapter w/ Bitfunx 2.0 SATA mod and I haven't seen issues so far. They opened a PR for it so hopefully it'll get merged upstream at some point. |
Yep! A PR is open, I'm waiting for it to be approved before I update this project to use the latest version of OPL. |
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OPL just got an update! "Limit max BDM UDMA mode to UDMA4 to avoid compatibility issues with various SATA/IDE2SD adapters". Can somebody with an affected drive try this please. If all good I'll update the repository. https://github.com/ps2homebrew/Open-PS2-Loader/releases/tag/latest |
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Every game I have tested so far has lead me to some SSD activity and then s black screen, followed by a manual reset. Is there something wrong with my drive?
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