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Proposal: Utility Building #16

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msimerson opened this issue Sep 25, 2020 · 2 comments
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Proposal: Utility Building #16

msimerson opened this issue Sep 25, 2020 · 2 comments
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msimerson commented Sep 25, 2020

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Wood Stove / Furnace / Boiler

  1. Wood stove in the lodge is a significant fire risk, among our greatest.
  2. New stoves must be EPA 2020 certified
    1. Requirements are getting stricter about smoke emissions (now: 20%)
  3. Current stove useful lifetime is about 15 years (3 yo)
  4. proposed wood boilers are 90%+ efficient
    1. ~200,000 BTU/hr, huge woodbox reduces reloads to 2-3x per weekend
    2. most have built-in propane fueled starter
    3. Vedolux Lambda 650, $13k, 220k BTU/hr, 92%, 7.5 cu/ft box, 770 gallon
    4. Flöling S3 Turbo Boiler 50, 163k BTU/hr, 7.4 cu/ft box, 600+ gallon
    5. Classic Edge 760 Titanium HDX, $13k, 245k BTU/hr, 90%, 23 cu/ft box, 330 gallon
  5. Indoor Air Pollution from existing stove
    1. occasionally smokes up the lodge
    2. always emits fine particle pollution inside the lodge
    3. often creates a stink cloud outside the lodge
  6. it takes up a huge amount of space in the drying room
  7. feeding it is messy and the mess is indoors
  8. being in a commons area, it is "too accessible" and gets tampered with
  9. necessitates a "heat tube" and chimney in the middle of the lodge

Wood Room

  • house and dry 2+ years of firewood (cure time target: 18+ months)
  • waste heat from the wood boiler would help dry the stored wood
  • current wood room
    • houses about 1.5 years supply, limited space requires shuffling wood each season
    • leaks a lot of heat from the basement
    • is a mouse super-highway into the lodge
    • could be repurposed

Electricity

  • dedicated room for a propane generator
  • space for an electric main transfer switch (mains <-> generator)
  • optimal: combine genset with battery. The battery is fantastic for handling startup loads and permits a smaller generator. Combined with battery storage, the generator runs only to charge the battery. The generator runs only at peak efficiency and uses up to 80% less fuel.
  • lodge electrical feed comes via this building
    • moves transformer away from the Lodge
    • removes power pole and power line from lodge area

Water Treatment

  • booster pump
    • sources of water leaks in the men's room (bleeding, condensation, etc.)
    • eyesore
    • noisy
    • pro: in Men's room, we can hear when it behaves "differently"
  • sediment filters
  • water softener (to avoid mineral deposits in water treatment equipment)
  • UV sterilizers
    • in current location, they are difficult to access and maintain
    • current location has too little space to put in larger treatment options

Water Heating

  • present water heaters
    • (3) electric in the bathroom/shower area (100+ gallons)
    • (2) propane tanks in the kitchen (100 gallons)
    • the tanks consume a lot of space and take a long time to fill and empty
  • proposed water heaters
    • use a heat exchanger with the wood boiler to pre-heat potable water for the lodge
      • uses our abundant biofuel (wood) to reduce electric load
    • a hybrid heat pump water heater
      • up to 3x more efficient than plain electric
      • dries the air and the stored firewood
      • can be used to warm portions of the lodge when unoccupied
    • replace WH tanks in the lodge with mini-tanks or tankless heaters (boosters)
  • much less water needs to drain for winter shutdown

Building Features

  • fireproof design, inside and out
  • easy to clean up wood mess
  • efficient heat distribution
    • glycol lines carry hot water to zones that demand heat (Lodge, Zoo, Sauna, etc..)
  • water treatment room can be kept above freezing with minimal expense
  • waste heat from wood boiler dries stored wood
  • uses water in distribution pipes and 800 gallon tank for heat storage

Pros

  • frees up the wood room
  • allows removing existing furnace from Lodge
    • doubles the space in the drying room
    • removes a fire risk from the lodge
  • removes the plumbing mess from the men's room
  • uses wood to preheat water, reducing use of electricity and propane
  • removes much of the electrical mess in the pantry
  • right sized generator permits switch to electric ovens and stove, using less propane in the kitchen

Cons

  • large investment
  • Meany doesn't have hydronics experience
@msimerson msimerson added electrical storage Dedicated places for things buildings Meany lodge permanent structures labels Sep 25, 2020
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Screen Shot 2021-11-19 at 6 34 00 PM

@msimerson msimerson changed the title Utility Building Proposal: Utility Building Apr 6, 2022
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The SketchUp file: Meany Works Utility Bldg.skp.zip

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