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FO-From Benjamin Franklin to Josiah Quincy, Sr., 11 September 1783

21 reprints from 1783-09-11 to 1899-11-11

by Franklin, Benjamin

From unknown source

1783-09-11

y dear Friend,
Passy, Sept. 11. 1783.—

Mr Storer told me not long since that you complain’d of my not writing to you. You had reason; for I find among your
Letters to me two unanswered, viz. those of May 25, and Dec. 17. 1781. The Truth is, I have had too much Business to do
for the Publick, and too little Help allow’d me; so that it became impossible for me to
keep up my private Correspondencies. I promis’d myself more Leisure when the Definitive
Treaty of Peace should be concluded: But that it seems is to be followed by a Treaty of
Commerce, which will probably take up a good deal of Time & require much Attention.
I seize this little Interim to sit down & have a little Chat with my Friends in
America.—
I lament with you the many Mischiefs, the Injustices, the Corruption of Manners, &c
&c that attended a depreciating Currency. It is some Consolation to me that I wash’d
my Hands of that Evil by predicting it in Congress, and proposing Means that would have
been effectual to prevent it if they had been adopted. Subsequent Operations that I have executed,
demonstrate that my Plan was practicable. But it was unfortunately rejected. Considering
all our Mistakes and Mismanagements, it is wonderful we have finish’d our Affair so
well, and so soon! Indeed I am wrong in using that Expression, We have finish’d our Affairs so well. Our
Blunders have been many, and they serve to manifest the Hand of Providence more clearly
in our Favour; so that we may much more properly say, These are
THY Doings, O Lord, and they are marvellous in
our Eyes!—
Mr. Storer, whom you recommended to me is now in England. He needed none of the Advice
you desired me to give him. His Behaviour here was unexceptionable, and he
gain’d the Esteem of all that knew him.—
The Epitaph on my dear and much esteemed young Friend, is too well written to be
capable of Improvement by any Corrections of mine.— Your Moderation appears in it, since
the natural Affection of a Parent has not induc’d you to exaggerate his Virtues. I shall
always mourn his Loss with you; a Loss not easily made up to his Country.
How differently constituted was his noble and generous Mind from that of the miserable
Calumniators you mention! Having Plenty of Merit in himself, he was not jealous of the
Appearance of Merit in others, but did Justice to their Characters with as much Pleasure
as these People do Injury. It is now near two Years since your Friendship induc’d you to
acquaint me with some of their Accusations. I guess’d easily at the Quarter from whence
they came; but conscious of my Innocence, and unwilling to disturb public Operations by
private Resentments or Contentions, I pass’d them over in Silence; and have not till
within these few days taken the least Step towards my Vindication. Inform’d that the
Practice of abusing me continues, and that some heavy Charges are lately made against me
respecting my Conduct in the Treaty, written from Paris and propagated among you; I have
demanded of all my Colleagues that they do me Justice, and I have no doubt of receiving
it, from each of them.— I did not think it necessary to justify my self to you; by
answering the Calumnies you mention’d. I knew you did not believe them. It was
improbable that I should at this Distance combine with any body to urge the Redemption
of the Paper on those unjust Terms, having no Interest in such Redemption. It was
impossible that I should have traded with the Public Money, since I had not traded with
any Money, either separately or jointly with any other Person, directly or indirectly to
the Value of a Shilling, since my being in France. And the Fishery which it was said I
had relinquished, had not then come in question, nor had I
ever dropt a Syllable to that purpose in Word or Writing: but I was always firm in this
Principle, that having had a common Right with the English to the Fisheries while
connected with that Nation, and having contributed equally with our Blood and Treasure
in conquering what had been gain’d from the French, we had an undoubted Right on
breaking up our Partnership, to a fair Division.— As to the two Charges of Age and
Weakness, I must confess the first; but I am not quite so clear in the latter; and
perhaps my Adversaries may find that they presum’d a little too much upon it when they
ventur’d to attack me.
But enough of these petty Personalities. I quit them to rejoice with you in the Peace God has blest us with, and in the Prosperity it
gives us a Prospect of. The Definitive Treaty was signed the third Instant. We are now
Friends with England and with all Mankind. May we never see another War! for in my
Opinion there never was a good War, or a bad Peace. Adieu,
& believe me ever, my dear Friend, Yours most affectionately

B Franklin
Honble. Josiah Quincey Esqe—

Notation: Dr. Franklin


1822-12-13 · Boston [Mass.]

Mr. Storer told me not long since that you
complained of my not writing to you. You had
reason ; for | find among your letters, two un-
answered. ‘The truth is, 1 have had too much
business to do for the public, and too little help
allowed me; so that it became impossible for
me to keep up my private correspondences. [|
promised myself more leisure when the defini-
tive treaty of peace should be concluded.
But that, it seems, is to be followed by a treaty
of commerce, which will probably take up a
good deal of time, and require much attention.
I seize this little interim to sit down, and have
a chat with my friends in America.

I lament with you, the many mischiefs, the
injustices, the corruption of manners, &c. &c.
that attend a depreciating currency. It is some
consolation to me, that I washed my hands of
that evil, by predicting it in Congress, and pro-
posing means that would have been effectual to
prevent it, if they had been adopted. Subse-
quent operations that I have executed, demon-
strate that my plan was practicable. But it
was unfortunately rejected. Considering all
our mistakes and mismanagements, it is wonder-
ful we have finished an affair so well and so
soon! Indeed, I am wrong in using that éx-
pression. We have finished our affairs so well—
our blunders have been many, and they serve
to manifest the hand of Providence more clear-
ly in our favour, so that we may much more
properly say, “ These are thy doing, O Lord,
and they are marvellous in our eyes !”

Mr. Storer, whom you mention to me, is now in
England. He needed none of the advice you de-
sired me to give him. His behaviour here was
unexceptionable, and he gained the esteem of
all that knew him.

The epitaph on my dear and much esteemed
young friend, is too *-ell written, to be capable

of improvement by any corrections of mine ;—

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1822-12-13 · Boston [Mass.]

your moderation appears in it, since the nat-
ural affectiqn ofa parent has not induced you to
exaggerate his virtues. I shall always mourn
his loss with you, a loss not easily made up to his
country.

How differently constituted was his noble and
generous mind from that of the miserable cal-
umniators you mention !
merit in himself, he was not jealous of the ap-
pearance of merit in others, but did justice to
their characters with as much pleasure, as these
people do injury : It is now near two years
since your friendship induced you to acquaint
me with some of their accusations. 1 guessed
easily at the quarter from whence they came :

to disturb public operations, by private resent-
ment or contentions, | passed them over in si-
lence, and have not till within these few days

Informed that the practice of abusing me con-
tinues, and that some heavy charges are lately
made against me, respecting my conduct in the
treaty, written from Paris, and propagated a-
mongst you, | have demanded of all my col-
leagues that they do me justice, and I have no
doubt of receiving it from each of them. I did
not think it necessary to justify myself to you,
by answering the calumnies you mentioned. 1
knew you did not believe them. It was impos-
sible that I should, at this distance, combine
with any body to urge the redemption of the
paper on those unjust terms, having no interest
in such redemption. It was impossible that I
should have traded with the public money,
since | have not traded with any money, either
separately or jointly with any other person, di-
rectly or indirectly, to the value oi a shilling,
since my being in France. And the Fishery,
which it was said I had relinquished, had not
then come in question, nor had I ever dropped
a syllable to that purpose, in word or writing ;
but was always firm in this principle, that hav-
ing had a common right with the English to the
Fisheries, while connected with that nation,
and having contributed equally with our blood
and treasure, in conquering what had been
gained from the French, we had an undoubted
right, in breaking up our partnership, to a fair
division. As to the two charges of age and
weakness, | must confess the first ; but I am not
quite so clear in the latter; and perhaps
my adversaries may find that they presumed a
little too much upon it when they ventured to
attack me.

But enough of these petty personalities—I
quit them to rejoice witb you in the peace God
has blessed us with, and in the prosperity it gives
us a prospect of. The definitive treaty was
signed the 3d inst. We are now friends with
England, and with all mankind. May we never
see another war! for, in my opinion, there nev-
er was a good war or a bad peace.

Adieu, and believe me ever,

My dear friend,
Yours most affectionately,
B. FRANKLIN.

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1822-12-13 · Boston [Mass.]

the magnificence which constituted this city the
wonder of the world. A branch of the Euphra-
tes flowed through the city from the north to

but conscious of my innocence, and unwilling

taken the least step towards my vindication.—

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DR. FRANKLIN TO JOSIAH QUINCY, BRAINTREE.

From The Worcester Magazine and Historical Journal (1825-1826)

1825-10-01 · Worcester

[This text is not available under an open license.]


LETTER FROM DR. FRANKLIN TO JOSIAH QUINCY

From The Friend of Peace (1815-1827)

1827-01-10 · Cambridge

[This text is not available under an open license.]


1837-09-01 · Philadelphia

was signed, he wrote thus—“ May we never see another war,
for, in my opinion, there never was a good war, nor a bad peace.”

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Fourth of July.

Eight days after the treaty of peace was
signed at the close of our Revolution, one
of the wisest statesman and purest patri­
ots of our country, Benjamin Franklin,
said : “ May we never see another war!
for, in my opinion, there never was a good
war or a had peace.” On this day we

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1866-08-16 · New York

Braintree, in 1783; “for, in my opinion,
there never was a good war or a bad peace.

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From The New York herald.

1874-04-06 · New York [N.Y.]

to me that I washed my hands of that evil by pre-­
dicting it in Congress and proposing means that
would have been effectual in preventing it, if they
had been adopted. Subsequent operations that I
have executed demonstrate that my plan was
practicable, but it was, unfortunately, rejected


1874-07-31 · Paw Paw, Mich.

this, undoubtedly, is the work of" some of j "jico. the corruption of manners, etc.. that
rum's devotees. The perpetrator is not known. 1 & deprecating currency. It is some
consolation to me that I washed my bands of
Fisher A: Bell, of Schoolcraft, butchers, killed i that evil by predicting it in Congress, and pro

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1875-07-08 · New York

BENJAMIN FRANKLIN.

“T lament with you the many mischiefs, |
the injustice, the corruption of manners,
etc., that attended a depreciating currency.
It is some consolation ‘to me that I washed |
my hands of that evil by predicting it in |
Congress and proposing meats that would
have been effectual to prevent it if they had |
been adopted.”

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1876-02-01 · Boston

‘I lament with you the many mis-
chiefs, the injustice, the corruption of
manners, ete., that attend a depreci-
ated currency. It is some consolation
to me that I washed my hands of that
evil by predicting it in Congress, and
proposing means that would have been
effectual to prevent it if they had been
adopted. Subsequent operations that I
have executed demonstrate that my plan
was practicable; but it was unfortunate-

(Works, x. 9.)

ly rejected “ig

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1876-03-01 · New York

long experience wrote, in 1783, these memorable words: “I
lament with you the many mischiefs, the injustice, the corruption
of manners, etc., that attend a depreciated currency. It is some
consolation to me that I washed my hands of that evil by pre-
dicting it in Congress, and proposing means that would have been
effectual to prevent it if they had been adopted. Subsequent
operations that I have executed demonstrate that my plan was
practicable; but it was unfortunately rejected.” (Works, x. 9.)

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From The Hillsdale standard.

1878-05-28 · Hillsdale, Mich.

t al.
"I lament with you the many mis-
chiefs, the injustice, the corruption of
manners, eto., that attend a depreciat­
ed currency. It is some consolation to
me that I washed my hands of tha evil
by predicting it in Congress, and pro-
posing means that would have been ef­
jectual to prevent it if they had been
adopted. Subsequent operations that
I have executed demonstrate that my
plan was practicable; but it was unfor­
tunately rejected." (Works, . 9


Paper Money

From Lowell daily citizen.

1878-10-05 · Lowell, Mass.

[This text is not available under an open license.]


1879-08-07 · Portland, Me.

“I lament with you the many mischiefs, the
injustice, the corruption of manners &c., that
attend a depreciated currency. It is some con­
solation to me that I washed my hands of that
evil by predicting it in Congress, and proposing
meaus that would have been effectual to pre­
vent if they had been adopted.

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1898-06-18 · Philadelphia

‘ But enough of these petty personalities. I quit them to

rejoice with you in the peace God has blest us with, and in the
prosperity it gives us a prospect of. The definitive treaty was

signed the 3d instant. We are now friends with England and

with all mankind. May we never see another war, for in my

opinion there never was a good war or a bad peace.”’

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1899-10-01 · New York

with you,” he told a friend, in speaking of
the Continental cur-
rency, “the many mis-
chiefs, the injustice,
the corruption of man-
ners, etc., that at-
tended a depreciating
currency. It is some
consolation to me, that
I washed my hands of
that evil by predicting
it in Congress, and
proposing means that
would have been effec-
tual to prevent it, if
they had been adopted.

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1899-10-01 · New York

Subsequentoperations,
that I have executed,
demonstrate that my
plan was practicable;
but it was unfortunate

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1899-11-11 · Philadelphia

‘* But enough of these petty personalities. I quit them to
rejoice with you in the peace God has blest us with. ;
We are now friends with England and with all mankind.
May we never see another war, for in my opinion there never
was a good war or a bad peace.”’

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