sasl not working

[kohlrak]

I use TCP dump and tried to find exactly why I kept not logging me in and it turns out that sasl is not sending The exact information being put in. Copying and pasting the password to ident password and it works. My server correctly forwards it for other irc clients.my suspicion is that one of the characters holds significance in yml, seeing as it refuses to keep the single quotes around it was the result of a keyboard smash.

[cnaude]

Yaml can be a little tricky with string formatting. I would recommend putting single quotes around the password in the yml file. This should be able to handle most use cases. If your password has a single quote in it then you can use double quotes around the password instead.

ident-password: 'password'

[kohlrak]

Yaml can be a little tricky with string formatting. I would recommend putting single quotes around the password in the yml file. This should be able to handle most use cases. If your password has a single quote in it then you can use double quotes around the password instead.

ident-password: 'password'

I tried doing that. I noticed that every time I tried modifying it and reloading within Minecraft it would erase the quotes. Or is it one of those we can't modify and reload when running?

[cnaude]

I was thinking about how to resolve this issue and I wonder if using a file reference to a password file would help. The way that the yaml library updates the yaml file can sometimes cause issues like this, especially when there are a bunch of special characters that need to be escaped.

[kohlrak]

I'm not sure if that's the case. I forget what it was, but i looked further into it, and noticed it does indeed remove the quotes, that was not user error like i suspected. Are you using sasl?

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On Mon, May 6, 2024 at 12:11 PM Chris ***@***.***> wrote: I was thinking about how to resolve this issue and I wonder if using a file reference to a password file would help. The way that the yaml library updates the yaml file can sometimes cause issues like this, especially when there are a bunch of special characters that need to be escaped. — Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub <#61 (comment)>, or unsubscribe <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/AN2C4WLKS6RFKYWDK6BDOPLZA6TR5AVCNFSM6AAAAABGPPOC72VHI2DSMVQWIX3LMV43OSLTON2WKQ3PNVWWK3TUHMZDAOJWGQYTCNJVHE> . You are receiving this because you modified the open/close state.Message ID: ***@***.***>

[cnaude]

I don't currently use sasl. The yaml library is likely just not handling one of the special characters properly. I can create a version of the plugin it's able to load the sasl password from another file instead of from the yaml. Would you be willing to test that if I create it?

[kohlrak]

Yeah, I can do that! There may be a delay in doing so, though. As you might notice from my response rate. I plan on going live this weekend so if you get me a build by then you'll have a test by then. 2024年5月7日(火) 16:25 Chris ***@***.***>:

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I don't currently use sasl. The yaml library is likely just not handling one of the special characters properly. I can create a version of the plugin it's able to load the sasl password from another file instead of from the yaml. Would you be willing to test that if I create it? — Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub <#61 (comment)>, or unsubscribe <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/AN2C4WP65OWEYLUJKNTV4YTZBE2DVAVCNFSM6AAAAABGPPOC72VHI2DSMVQWIX3LMV43OSLTON2WKQ3PNVWWK3TUHMZDAOJZGI2DKNZQG4> . You are receiving this because you modified the open/close state.Message ID: ***@***.***>

[cnaude]

https://jenkins.chrisnaude.com/jenkins/job/PurpleIRC-spigot/379/

This new version has a new option in the bot yaml:

sasl-password-file: password.txt

[kohlrak]

All right I'll test you soon as I get home I'm at work now there was a scheduling shift change this weekend everything went live but the my world's plugin that I rely on just updated as well so I had some other things to test at the same time. 2024年5月12日(日) 17:36 Chris ***@***.***>:

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https://jenkins.chrisnaude.com/jenkins/job/PurpleIRC-spigot/379/ This new version has a new option in the bot yaml: sasl-password-file: password.txt — Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub <#61 (comment)>, or unsubscribe <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/AN2C4WPJDUUMQV4RGY3T7ZLZB7OFBAVCNFSM6AAAAABGPPOC72VHI2DSMVQWIX3LMV43OSLTON2WKQ3PNVWWK3TUHMZDCMBWGM4DCNJTGU> . You are receiving this because you modified the open/close state.Message ID: ***@***.***>

[kohlrak]

Got some time here at work, i couldn't get it to load the password file. I even tried an absolute path. I chowned and chgrped everything too 2024年5月12日(日) 21:55 kohlrak ***@***.***>:

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All right I'll test you soon as I get home I'm at work now there was a scheduling shift change this weekend everything went live but the my world's plugin that I rely on just updated as well so I had some other things to test at the same time. 2024年5月12日(日) 17:36 Chris ***@***.***>: > https://jenkins.chrisnaude.com/jenkins/job/PurpleIRC-spigot/379/ > > This new version has a new option in the bot yaml: > > sasl-password-file: password.txt > > — > Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub > <#61 (comment)>, > or unsubscribe > <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/AN2C4WPJDUUMQV4RGY3T7ZLZB7OFBAVCNFSM6AAAAABGPPOC72VHI2DSMVQWIX3LMV43OSLTON2WKQ3PNVWWK3TUHMZDCMBWGM4DCNJTGU> > . > You are receiving this because you modified the open/close state.Message > ID: ***@***.***> >

[cnaude]

Oh that's really strange. Did it throw any errors? When I tested it I had the password file in the same location as the bot yml file.

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On Sun, May 12, 2024, 9:57 PM kohlrak ***@***.***> wrote: Got some time here at work, i couldn't get it to load the password file. I even tried an absolute path. I chowned and chgrped everything too 2024年5月12日(日) 21:55 kohlrak ***@***.***>: > All right I'll test you soon as I get home I'm at work now there was a > scheduling shift change this weekend everything went live but the my > world's plugin that I rely on just updated as well so I had some other > things to test at the same time. > > 2024年5月12日(日) 17:36 Chris ***@***.***>: > >> https://jenkins.chrisnaude.com/jenkins/job/PurpleIRC-spigot/379/ >> >> This new version has a new option in the bot yaml: >> >> sasl-password-file: password.txt >> >> — >> Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub >> < #61 (comment)>, >> or unsubscribe >> < https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/AN2C4WPJDUUMQV4RGY3T7ZLZB7OFBAVCNFSM6AAAAABGPPOC72VHI2DSMVQWIX3LMV43OSLTON2WKQ3PNVWWK3TUHMZDCMBWGM4DCNJTGU> >> . >> You are receiving this because you modified the open/close state.Message >> ID: ***@***.***> >> > — Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub <#61 (comment)>, or unsubscribe <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/AAK7U3Z5CI3U6LCETS3L6ODZCBB3FAVCNFSM6AAAAABGPPOC72VHI2DSMVQWIX3LMV43OSLTON2WKQ3PNVWWK3TUHMZDCMBWGY2TKOBRG4> . You are receiving this because you commented.Message ID: ***@***.***>

[kohlrak]

nvm, i was in a hurry and testing other mods at the same time: i misread teh error message about the Craft Scheduler Thread. I don't have enough time to try at the moment so i'll try again when i get home and can look at it. It finally hit me after i set the sasl to false. I leave work in 2 hours. 2024年5月13日(月) 1:03 Chris ***@***.***>:

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Oh that's really strange. Did it throw any errors? When I tested it I had the password file in the same location as the bot yml file. On Sun, May 12, 2024, 9:57 PM kohlrak ***@***.***> wrote: > Got some time here at work, i couldn't get it to load the password file. I > even tried an absolute path. I chowned and chgrped everything too > > > 2024年5月12日(日) 21:55 kohlrak ***@***.***>: > > > All right I'll test you soon as I get home I'm at work now there was a > > scheduling shift change this weekend everything went live but the my > > world's plugin that I rely on just updated as well so I had some other > > things to test at the same time. > > > > 2024年5月12日(日) 17:36 Chris ***@***.***>: > > > >> https://jenkins.chrisnaude.com/jenkins/job/PurpleIRC-spigot/379/ > >> > >> This new version has a new option in the bot yaml: > >> > >> sasl-password-file: password.txt > >> > >> — > >> Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub > >> < > #61 (comment)>, > > >> or unsubscribe > >> < > https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/AN2C4WPJDUUMQV4RGY3T7ZLZB7OFBAVCNFSM6AAAAABGPPOC72VHI2DSMVQWIX3LMV43OSLTON2WKQ3PNVWWK3TUHMZDCMBWGM4DCNJTGU> > > >> . > >> You are receiving this because you modified the open/close > state.Message > >> ID: ***@***.***> > >> > > > > — > Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub > < #61 (comment)>, > or unsubscribe > < https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/AAK7U3Z5CI3U6LCETS3L6ODZCBB3FAVCNFSM6AAAAABGPPOC72VHI2DSMVQWIX3LMV43OSLTON2WKQ3PNVWWK3TUHMZDCMBWGY2TKOBRG4> > . > You are receiving this because you commented.Message ID: > ***@***.***> > — Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub <#61 (comment)>, or unsubscribe <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/AN2C4WKKZ5KIJMRTIYOPUZLZCBCRXAVCNFSM6AAAAABGPPOC72VHI2DSMVQWIX3LMV43OSLTON2WKQ3PNVWWK3TUHMZDCMBWGY3DAOJZGY> . You are receiving this because you modified the open/close state.Message ID: ***@***.***>

[kohlrak]

Ok, i found the problem, sort of. I even removed special characters from the password, i've used the file, i've set the thing to plaintext using sasl and i finally used tcpdump to see what's going on: it's not sending the sasl data. It's sending something, but whatever it is it's not the correct data. I don't know how to read the packet info, but it looks to me like it's just sending null data: I looked deeper into the issue, and apparently it's a known issue with pircbotx. There seems to be a conflict between the creators of pircbotx and inspIRCd. It's part of a bigger discussion and looks like an unnecessary conflict of finger pointing. Servers like inspIRCd (which i'm using, as well as a few other very well known networks like Freenode (i assume Libera as well since that spawned form Freenode, but i can't confirm)) are using "AUTHENTICATE :+" where as the official IRCv3 spec makes it unclear whether or not the ":" is optional and ignorable. So what's happening is because the server isn't sending "AUTHENTICATE +" without the colon, pircbotx is just sending null data to keep the connection alive while it waits for that message which never comes. The github for the spec has implicitly taken a side on the issue, but it hasn't explicitly stated how it should be handled. Basically, it's needless drama. It would appear this issue is outside of the scope of PurpleIRC. But i learned something new and have to change one of my C libraries when i get more time. For the time being i'm going to have to use nickserv authentication, even if it's less secure, because the responsibility has been clarified back in 2021 and the fact the issue hasn't been solved suggests it's not likely to see the light of day any time soon.

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On Mon, May 13, 2024 at 5:13 AM kohlrak ***@***.***> wrote: nvm, i was in a hurry and testing other mods at the same time: i misread teh error message about the Craft Scheduler Thread. I don't have enough time to try at the moment so i'll try again when i get home and can look at it. It finally hit me after i set the sasl to false. I leave work in 2 hours. 2024年5月13日(月) 1:03 Chris ***@***.***>: > Oh that's really strange. Did it throw any errors? When I tested it I had > the password file in the same location as the bot yml file. > > On Sun, May 12, 2024, 9:57 PM kohlrak ***@***.***> wrote: > > > Got some time here at work, i couldn't get it to load the password > file. I > > even tried an absolute path. I chowned and chgrped everything too > > > > > > 2024年5月12日(日) 21:55 kohlrak ***@***.***>: > > > > > All right I'll test you soon as I get home I'm at work now there was > a > > > scheduling shift change this weekend everything went live but the my > > > world's plugin that I rely on just updated as well so I had some > other > > > things to test at the same time. > > > > > > 2024年5月12日(日) 17:36 Chris ***@***.***>: > > > > > >> https://jenkins.chrisnaude.com/jenkins/job/PurpleIRC-spigot/379/ > > >> > > >> This new version has a new option in the bot yaml: > > >> > > >> sasl-password-file: password.txt > > >> > > >> — > > >> Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub > > >> < > > > #61 (comment)>, > > > > > >> or unsubscribe > > >> < > > > https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/AN2C4WPJDUUMQV4RGY3T7ZLZB7OFBAVCNFSM6AAAAABGPPOC72VHI2DSMVQWIX3LMV43OSLTON2WKQ3PNVWWK3TUHMZDCMBWGM4DCNJTGU> > > > > > >> . > > >> You are receiving this because you modified the open/close > > state.Message > > >> ID: ***@***.***> > > >> > > > > > > > — > > Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub > > < > #61 (comment)>, > > > or unsubscribe > > < > https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/AAK7U3Z5CI3U6LCETS3L6ODZCBB3FAVCNFSM6AAAAABGPPOC72VHI2DSMVQWIX3LMV43OSLTON2WKQ3PNVWWK3TUHMZDCMBWGY2TKOBRG4> > > > . > > You are receiving this because you commented.Message ID: > > ***@***.***> > > > > — > Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub > <#61 (comment)>, > or unsubscribe > <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/AN2C4WKKZ5KIJMRTIYOPUZLZCBCRXAVCNFSM6AAAAABGPPOC72VHI2DSMVQWIX3LMV43OSLTON2WKQ3PNVWWK3TUHMZDCMBWGY3DAOJZGY> > . > You are receiving this because you modified the open/close state.Message > ID: ***@***.***> >

[cnaude]

I've been maintaining my own version of pircbotx so I might be able to fix that.

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On Mon, May 13, 2024, 7:25 AM kohlrak ***@***.***> wrote: Ok, i found the problem, sort of. I even removed special characters from the password, i've used the file, i've set the thing to plaintext using sasl and i finally used tcpdump to see what's going on: it's not sending the sasl data. It's sending something, but whatever it is it's not the correct data. I don't know how to read the packet info, but it looks to me like it's just sending null data: I looked deeper into the issue, and apparently it's a known issue with pircbotx. There seems to be a conflict between the creators of pircbotx and inspIRCd. It's part of a bigger discussion and looks like an unnecessary conflict of finger pointing. Servers like inspIRCd (which i'm using, as well as a few other very well known networks like Freenode (i assume Libera as well since that spawned form Freenode, but i can't confirm)) are using "AUTHENTICATE :+" where as the official IRCv3 spec makes it unclear whether or not the ":" is optional and ignorable. So what's happening is because the server isn't sending "AUTHENTICATE +" without the colon, pircbotx is just sending null data to keep the connection alive while it waits for that message which never comes. The github for the spec has implicitly taken a side on the issue, but it hasn't explicitly stated how it should be handled. Basically, it's needless drama. It would appear this issue is outside of the scope of PurpleIRC. But i learned something new and have to change one of my C libraries when i get more time. For the time being i'm going to have to use nickserv authentication, even if it's less secure, because the responsibility has been clarified back in 2021 and the fact the issue hasn't been solved suggests it's not likely to see the light of day any time soon. On Mon, May 13, 2024 at 5:13 AM kohlrak ***@***.***> wrote: > nvm, i was in a hurry and testing other mods at the same time: i misread > teh error message about the Craft Scheduler Thread. I don't have enough > time to try at the moment so i'll try again when i get home and can look at > it. It finally hit me after i set the sasl to false. I leave work in 2 > hours. > > 2024年5月13日(月) 1:03 Chris ***@***.***>: > >> Oh that's really strange. Did it throw any errors? When I tested it I had >> the password file in the same location as the bot yml file. >> >> On Sun, May 12, 2024, 9:57 PM kohlrak ***@***.***> wrote: >> >> > Got some time here at work, i couldn't get it to load the password >> file. I >> > even tried an absolute path. I chowned and chgrped everything too >> > >> > >> > 2024年5月12日(日) 21:55 kohlrak ***@***.***>: >> > >> > > All right I'll test you soon as I get home I'm at work now there was >> a >> > > scheduling shift change this weekend everything went live but the my >> > > world's plugin that I rely on just updated as well so I had some >> other >> > > things to test at the same time. >> > > >> > > 2024年5月12日(日) 17:36 Chris ***@***.***>: >> > > >> > >> https://jenkins.chrisnaude.com/jenkins/job/PurpleIRC-spigot/379/ >> > >> >> > >> This new version has a new option in the bot yaml: >> > >> >> > >> sasl-password-file: password.txt >> > >> >> > >> — >> > >> Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub >> > >> < >> > >> #61 (comment)>, >> >> > >> > >> or unsubscribe >> > >> < >> > >> https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/AN2C4WPJDUUMQV4RGY3T7ZLZB7OFBAVCNFSM6AAAAABGPPOC72VHI2DSMVQWIX3LMV43OSLTON2WKQ3PNVWWK3TUHMZDCMBWGM4DCNJTGU> >> >> > >> > >> . >> > >> You are receiving this because you modified the open/close >> > state.Message >> > >> ID: ***@***.***> >> > >> >> > > >> > >> > — >> > Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub >> > < >> #61 (comment)>, >> >> > or unsubscribe >> > < >> https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/AAK7U3Z5CI3U6LCETS3L6ODZCBB3FAVCNFSM6AAAAABGPPOC72VHI2DSMVQWIX3LMV43OSLTON2WKQ3PNVWWK3TUHMZDCMBWGY2TKOBRG4> >> >> > . >> > You are receiving this because you commented.Message ID: >> > ***@***.***> >> > >> >> — >> Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub >> < #61 (comment)>, >> or unsubscribe >> < https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/AN2C4WKKZ5KIJMRTIYOPUZLZCBCRXAVCNFSM6AAAAABGPPOC72VHI2DSMVQWIX3LMV43OSLTON2WKQ3PNVWWK3TUHMZDCMBWGY3DAOJZGY> >> . >> You are receiving this because you modified the open/close state.Message >> ID: ***@***.***> >> > — Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub <#61 (comment)>, or unsubscribe <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/AAK7U34UR5NXLHQQICN7J6TZCDEOPAVCNFSM6AAAAABGPPOC72VHI2DSMVQWIX3LMV43OSLTON2WKQ3PNVWWK3TUHMZDCMBXG4ZTONRXGU> . You are receiving this because you commented.Message ID: ***@***.***>