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In theory Webots R2021a should already work with Rosetta 2, but I didn't test it because I don't have a M1 computer here. Can you test it? Of course, we have plans to support Apple M1. I believe we simply need to modify the build process (Makefiles) in order to create fat binaries that include binary code for both ARM and X86-64 architectures. It shouldn't be very difficult. If you have a M1 machine at hand, maybe you can give a try, compiling Webots from the source, modifying the Makefiles to include ARM support and testing if it works (and if it runs faster)? |
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Yeah, I am really interested in this too. Unfortunately, I do not have a M1 machine as well. I will definitely test it once I have the machine. My only concern is the lack of supports from other open-source projects. For example, ROS2 will move Mac OS from Tier 1 to Tier 2 or Tier 3 support now. In addition, there are still no native Fortran compiler or GCC compiler yet. Hopefully things will improve over the time. The only good news are homebrew is working hard to get things working on the ARM Mac and there is a special version of TensorFlow that utilizes the latest Neural Engine from ARM Macs https://github.com/apple/tensorflow_macos |
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I have the M1 MacBookr Air now. |
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One major roadblock for porting Webots to M1 is Qt. |
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Yeah. I have encountered the same problem (no qt) when i try to compile another program. |
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Is there any update on M1 chip support? This is with M1 Macbook air, using Python 39. |
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It is possible to run Webots python controllers on a M1 Mac as explained in #4112 (comment). |
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Native support for Apple M1 is coming now in #4543 starting with robot controllers. |
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Hi! I'm also interested in this topic. I have an M1 Macbook Air 2020. It's the "latest" Macbook Air as the new one might be released this year. I just bought my mac last month and used webots for the first time this weekend. The app crashed so many times, I am actually getting concerned about my machine. Is it .. normal for webots to be doing this as full support is still in the works? I was keeping an eye on the activity monitor and didn't seem like the memory was overloaded. I updated to Rosetta 2 and I'm using R2021. However, the amount of times I had to restart the webots app, for a relatively quite simple world and accompanying controller, has me concerned. Looking forward to hearing other people's opinions.. |
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We should have a native M1 version of Webots very soon. This might help resolve the crashes you experienced. Would you like to beta test this new native M1 version? |
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Yes please. I have the same issue. |
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#4543 was just merged into the develop branch. This means that from tomorrow morning (31-5-22), a universal binary (including native M1 support) distribution of Webots R2022b should be available in the nightly builds. Could you please test it and report any problem with it? |
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I have tried it and my initial problem was fixed. Rotating my view is a little different / worse. In the stable release you would rotate around the center of your world but it now seems like I am rotating around something much further away. So my objects move very slowly and I have to drag my view back down after every time I rotate. |
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You can't have tried it because it is not yet released. Check the date of the next nightly build, it should be 31-5-22. |
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The first nightly build with M1 native support is available here. Upcoming nightly builds of Webots R2022b should also include this feature. Could you please test it and report any problem here? |
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I asked a friend to try the R2022b on a MacBook Air with M1. It's amazing how well the simulator ran on the fanless laptop: the surface temperature was cool and most simple projects ran flawlessly. The setting shows the backend is OpenGL, not Metal. The graphics setting was Ambient Occlusion: Ultra There was an warning message in universal_robots/worlds/ure.wbt after running the simulation for a while. It shows:
Larger project, such as vehicles/worlds/city_traffic.wbt also works but require to setup Python Path manually in Preference. Lastly, the extremally large project, such as vehicles/worlds/village_center.wbt was having trouble to render trees and buildings correctly. |
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Great ! Thank you for this feedback. It looks like the M1 support is working pretty nicely. |
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No problem. I am glad that Webots is providing the Apple Silicon support. How difficult would it be to use the Metal backend? or is it worth the effort? |
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It's a matter of porting the WREN (Webots Rendering EngiNe) library from OpenGL to Metal. This is probably a lot of work and not a priority for us now. |
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It makes sense. As always, excellent work! |
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I just tried running the current nighly on my Macbook Air M2. If I run it, it just says that it has detected that my GPU is not from NVidia but from Apple, which makes sense. Webots starts, but the world is just black (so it seems like rendering does not work). Are there any settings I have to enable? |
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Nevermind, it works! I didn't actually open my world file. |
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i follow this video but i get 2d shape why ( mac m1 Os 15.1)
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Greeting!
I am a new user of Webots and I enjoy using it! The latest Mac series have switched from the traditional x86 architecture to their ARM architecture. The performance is quite promising and many software gradually have native support see here
I am wondering if there are any plans to have future support on the Macs with ARM CPU?
I am not sure if all the dependencies support apple silicon, but at least openCL and openGL should work on the ARM Macs (source)
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