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[ENHANCEMENT]: various ideas #131

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WP-Rue opened this issue Oct 9, 2023 · 2 comments
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[ENHANCEMENT]: various ideas #131

WP-Rue opened this issue Oct 9, 2023 · 2 comments
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WP-Rue commented Oct 9, 2023

Using your great work for heating the house I got nearly every day new ideas for maybe hopefully useful enhancements...
I put them altogether here - at first:

  1. For creating a somehow manual mode for a dau (German for: the stupid user thinkable) it could be helpful to have some link-in-nodes for some basic switches-e.g.: Heatmode-slection; all Schedule task on/off, target temperature DHW/(heat). With this we could define a fall back solution for basic operation, a simple Dashboard- if the main operator is absent...

  2. For calculate the energy costs it would be cool to have some counters summing up maybe one year for heating(cooling) and DHW - both for consumption and production. I build this on a personal tab- but maybe other user would like it too.

  3. With this relative warm autumn days I searched for a solution to prevent the Jeisha from switching on/off - and found an idea in a German forum, which I will try in the next days: The problem is the lowest power of the machine is from my experience around 600W: times the wonderful COP of 6 results in too much heating power. So the idea was to calculating the energy demand for heating for the whole day from the actual mean outside temperature, use the house itself as a storage (ĺots of stone here ;-)) and therefor shift with the WAR-function the target temperature a little higher and stop the heatpump after generating enough energy in the house for the day.
    The formula is:
    heat-energy= (HL-AT)/(HL-NAT) * max_heat_energy;
    with

  • HL: Limit for starting the heating, e.g. 15°C;
  • AT: actual mean outside temp. or even the forecast or a mixture;
  • NAT:lowest temp with max_heat_energy; e.g. -14°C.

This seems to be also an use case for the idea 1) : some kind of external input for the heat-mode-selector would be helpful to switch to heat-Mode DHW-only...

This is it for today ;-)

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😄
Thank you for you ideas !!! Keep em coming. 😄

item 1: Dau-screen
I was actually hoping that the current Dashboard, the Home screen, is already really simple. That with all the automation, and functions, manual control would not be needed. ghehehe.. But you just woke me up that it is not there yet.

What part of the main dashboard is too difficult if the main operator is absent? If we solve this, we might not need the separate dau-menu....

When does the "Dau-menu" need to show and when the regular menus?
Should it be a simple tab in the menu or something else?

2 Energy calculations.
Could you maybe give a screenshot of what you have created? An image speeks 1000 words.

3 I need to look closer and read better. It is late now. Will come back on this.

Thanks again for sharing the ideas !!!!

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WP-Rue commented Oct 25, 2023

Item 1:
The "dau"-menue:
I now understand more of your idea with the home menue- you are right: there are a lot of basic information on it!
I will think about the "real dau"-menue and will come back to this idea. Just two points:

  • I had an error H70- and this was not clearly visualised with big red letters; I found it in the system log; and the main power switch is simply turn off( by the remote control)
  • The dau menue should be in german language- in my case. Therefore my idea of link-in nodes for some main operations(more or less room heat or water-temp e.g.): or maybe somehow similar to the connection to the sensors, you are working on for V23.10.. ((a topic which is already simple useable in the V23.9-way from my experience))👍🏻

Item 2:
My daily calculations on the following screenshot...
If wanted I can upload the flow- hopefully...
image

Item 3:
I activated the soft-start feature, which results in longer run-time. Great work.
So maybe the idea of pumping the calculated heat demand without interruption into the house- and then stop the heatpump is not necessary (but I like to play with Nodered and so again: how can I override the scheduler and switch from my own external logic from mode 4 to mode 3)😉
Or maybe there is a possibility to switch of the heating during these warmer autumn days at night? (night setpoint reduction in relationship to mean outside temperature?)

Kind greetings - and sorry for the long time to answer: was in holiday and need some time to get to this answer..😉

New ideas:

  • sending an e-mail with monthly report or in case of error or theft or..

  • my old gas heater has a feature that adapt the war-function to the heat capacity of the house(light- middle-heavy)- I always run on "heavy": that would result in keeping the setpoint longer a little bit higher even if it gets warmer outside to compensate the cold stones and delaying the lowering of setpoint because of the stored heat...
    maybe quite easy to create with a delaying and filtering of the outside temperature sensor...

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