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frankly I'll be honest, Chouard he's a good guy he has ideas
he's a good guy he has ideas but he is indoctrinated by
has ideas but he is indoctrinated by his extreme right friends when
indoctrinated by his extreme right friends when he begins to speak of
friends when he begins to speak of borders we sense that goes
speak of borders we sense that goes beyond its subject, criticizing globalism
that goes beyond its subject, criticizing globalism it is one thing but
criticizing globalism it is one thing but you have put your finger
thing but you have put your finger on specific items to get
finally good because you stop talking about it, all is not
stop talking about it, all is not throwing as many find common
Is not a subject that is not debate here I am
Then keep only what brings us Sent, I hardly supports the
brings us Sent, I hardly supports the inaccuracies then I will not
supports the inaccuracies then I will not let what I see: Etienne
will not let what I see: Etienne Chouard's borders especially in reading
see: Etienne Chouard's borders especially in reading Debray "Praise border" which has
in reading Debray "Praise border" which has nothing to do with a
me what bothers me is that countries such as France benefiting from
that countries such as France benefiting from weak currencies (eg in Africa)
benefiting from weak currencies (eg in Africa) to steal the resources of
what bothers me is that the last section of the preamble
that the last section of the preamble 46 is still not respected
) while it was inspired by a speech of 44 and the
by a speech of 44 and the blood flowed, Africa has sacrificed
and the blood flowed, Africa has sacrificed his son for Europe and
has sacrificed his son for Europe and France and today they are
Europe and France and today they are treated as a sub-continent and
they are treated as a sub-continent and me it gives me the
I watched the debate between firstly the economist and philosopher Fric
between firstly the economist and philosopher Fric Lordon and secondly anthropologist David
I was impressed by their difference in that Lordon seemed to
their difference in that Lordon seemed to have a kind of political
seemed to have a kind of political program (end of private ownership
of political program (end of private ownership of means of production, for
private ownership of means of production, for example) while Graeber simply wanted
production, for example) while Graeber simply wanted "to be left to the
@Reveur Yes that is what I say it critical for the eu
I say it critical for the eu borders too porous, as the
Glad to raise the level Seriously, what bothers me in the first
Seriously, what bothers me in the first place is that there is
the first place is that there is inconsiderable number of injustices in
In this sense, I fully support the idea of ??convergence of
The question "what to bring together the struggles?" and I bring a
together the struggles?" and I bring a solution in this post: https://pouvoiraupeuple
Fric Lordon said: "In France, someone who says that he is neither
someone who says that he is neither right nor left is invariably
The problem is that say "left" or "right" or "center" does not
"left" or "right" or "center" does not suggest a popular solution, because
What I am advocating in this post is to put aside
in this post is to put aside labels (eg I'm libertarian in
put aside labels (eg I'm libertarian in terms of moral values ??but
libertarian in terms of moral values ??but I do not put it
values ??but I do not put it forward because it is cleaving)
I do not wish to cleave a moral, but to unite on
cleave a moral, but to unite on a meta-political struggle that is
unite on a meta-political struggle that is to say, a struggle that
that is to say, a struggle that transcends current divisions and will
struggle that transcends current divisions and will allow us to unite on
and will allow us to unite on the type of social and
unite on the type of social and institutional structures that we wish
A left and right there are people who want to fight against
are people who want to fight against neoliberalism, respect freedom of expression,
To determine and / or provide all the values ??and objectives that
provide all the values ??and objectives that unite us, do not hesitate
hello brother, I am going there soon The only ideology that go
there soon The only ideology that go away is one that temporarily
that go away is one that temporarily puts aside all the others,
that temporarily puts aside all the others, by uniting to implement democratic
I just read a little up there anthony, the "end of private
up there anthony, the "end of private ownership of the means of
of private ownership of the means of production" is not an idea
means of production" is not an idea invented by Lordon, I do
an idea invented by Lordon, I do not know if it can
but it's that I'm not you, you can not determine "meta-democratic political
you, you can not determine "meta-democratic political structures we need" without ideological
"An ideology is a predefined system of ideas, also called categories, from
system of ideas, also called categories, from which reality is analyzed, as
categories, from which reality is analyzed, as opposed to an intuitive knowledge
How do you succeed in extracting an ideology 'unique' by inspiring
in extracting an ideology 'unique' by inspiring you to such thinkers: Franis
by inspiring you to such thinkers: Franis Asselineau, Sylvain Baron, Aurien Bernier,
thinkers: Franis Asselineau, Sylvain Baron, Aurien Bernier, Olivier Berruyer, Jean Bricmont, ienne
Aurien Bernier, Olivier Berruyer, Jean Bricmont, ienne Chouard Francis Cousin, Michel Collon,
Bricmont, ienne Chouard Francis Cousin, Michel Collon, Franck Lepage Fric Lordon, Jacques
That is to say, how one sets superior rules for operation
I think we can not speak of "democracy" without a fundamental critique
speak of "democracy" without a fundamental critique of the values ??that support
there are hundreds of ways to organize the votes and they influence
As long as we imagine voting to establish power over a
imagine voting to establish power over a majority, it will not change
and there are mass influence techniques, I think of astroturfing (those who
techniques, I think of astroturfing (those who have access to research UNmotor
besancon: they are easily influenced because the system ensures that we are
that means everything and nothing impressionable, the problem is rather that a
impressionable, the problem is rather that a minority of dominant influence of
the mechanisms of mass influence are identifiable and possible to remove (I
are identifiable and possible to remove (I think the media held by
remove (I think the media held by the richest of the richest)
No, the problem is that many people prefer the matter to TV
many people prefer the matter to TV places to take tte on
to TV places to take tte on subjects of which they were
We can not have a democratic system if we stupefies watching
a democratic system if we stupefies watching TV and resigns what is
stupefies watching TV and resigns what is happening in our neighborhood, city,
the television industries consciously play with the scientific knowledge of addiction to
Feel free to carry on your conversations #blabla to facilitate the arrival
if you see the audience as victims of images dealers, suddenly, they
as victims of images dealers, suddenly, they are far less responsible ^^
ah ok I arrived, I thought it was nice to be greeted
Perhaps you like me to come to the conclusion that leaving the
come to the conclusion that leaving the majority choose is inefficase, essential
leaving the majority choose is inefficase, essential questions are asked to people
inefficase, essential questions are asked to people who know nothing there and
to people who know nothing there and it is expected that the
there and it is expected that the most popular answer is the
not you see, it is the logical consequence to a concrete problem
besancon: it is to qualify but I also see more elections as
but I also see more elections as a power against (someone too
elections as a power against (someone too unpopular will not be renewed)
(someone too unpopular will not be renewed) than a real exercise of
besancon defends negative the appearance of a strong leader, which is the
of a strong leader, which is the program of the extreme right,
is the program of the extreme right, who tries, as we know,
It starts from the recognition that we share (the vote does
recognition that we share (the vote does not) to bring us to
vote does not) to bring us to "we need a leader who
us to "we need a leader who knows better than the others"
for me democracy is not only of all exercise our power by
only of all exercise our power by the state apparatus but also
power by the state apparatus but also to limit its power and
but also to limit its power and guarantee civil liberties to organize
power and guarantee civil liberties to organize ALSO in other forms of
to organize ALSO in other forms of exercise of power as a
VDSO thank you, I'm interested to me is how the fran it
Can t have overcome egos to arrive at common points of
egos to arrive at common points of convergence in a country like
points of convergence in a country like ours? What tools are in
country like ours? What tools are in place to arrive at a
are in place to arrive at a common coordination between the different
no management team will know better than me what life, and will
better than me what life, and will have access to the creativity
and will have access to the creativity that comes from a group
personally I think many people in this movement limit their political vision
in this movement limit their political vision for a reform of the
political vision for a reform of the state and representative system as
of the state and representative system as politics and power are also
@galaad why France should it remain as it? We have known for
remain as it? We have known for some time that democracy works
known for some time that democracy works best in smaller groups, coordinate
democracy works best in smaller groups, coordinate the whole France is to
groups, coordinate the whole France is to launch a challenge that we
is to launch a challenge that we will be able to deal
France is changing and evolving, there is today in every city people
there is today in every city people who are open ag to
city people who are open ag to defend their rights, blocked the
ag to defend their rights, blocked the national scene, the problem and
blocked the national scene, the problem and the major challenge (for me)
problem and the major challenge (for me) is the coordination between all
(for me) is the coordination between all its ag and all his
Can you do me by your conclusions in relation to the
by your conclusions in relation to the concept works best in small
to the concept works best in small groups? it is not currently
in small groups? it is not currently creating this experience and the
there are minutes of ag we can take a little from day
we can take a little from day to day what it says
Monday night, well drunk man dressed as Tigger attacked the participants of
dressed as Tigger attacked the participants of Night Stand, Place du Capitole
On this point it will be interesting to all online accounts rendered
be interesting to all online accounts rendered ag each city, then make
accounts rendered ag each city, then make groupings of commissions on the
then make groupings of commissions on the same subjects, the movement of
on the same subjects, the movement of Toulouse offers a trial component:
I will discuss in another article that is planned, I will also
article that is planned, I will also do a series on the
will also do a series on the 3 mandates Thatcher etc to
on the 3 mandates Thatcher etc to try to vary the geographic,
(By cons I would suggest to bring out - somewhere / typo
to bring out - somewhere / typo - about the "history and
/ typo - about the "history and analysis of citizens' movements and
"history and analysis of citizens' movements and initiatives and alternative policies, pitfalls
movements and initiatives and alternative policies, pitfalls to avoid - with plural
in the sense that it is not history to make history -
is not history to make history - c seriously intended lesson to
history - c seriously intended lesson to not crash Do a little
lesson to not crash Do a little pub to this video, for
a little pub to this video, for those who have not seen
yes it is true that it is not just the story, in
it is not just the story, in fact I'm trying to find
story, in fact I'm trying to find sociologists, ethnologists to participate in
to find sociologists, ethnologists to participate in articles in the college where
participate in articles in the college where I am to feed and
Or rather by adding this link to the documents you are working
link to the documents you are working on to give other tracks,
are working on to give other tracks, other information, perhaps a different
And if people have access to university / authors / journalists who
to university / authors / journalists who would be likely to answer
journalists who would be likely to answer questions through interviews organized for
to answer questions through interviews organized for Night Stand, it can be
fr website: It is normal that the program is March 50 in
Every day there are thousands to occupy public space to take our
Join us now, and decide together our common future in this
decide together our common future in this political movement or party without
Reminder: we organize the TVdebout a "AG the AG" on Friday 53
I propose that we discuss in #agdesag you know where I can
in #agdesag you know where I can find it, I intervened and
I can find it, I intervened and I hope that this important
intervened and I hope that this important speech I can make it
The report city / digital, I see it focused on the
digital, I see it focused on the ability of every citizen to
on the ability of every citizen to find the wealth of its
citizen to find the wealth of its territory (actors operating there, initiatives
of its territory (actors operating there, initiatives that develop there, events in
there, initiatives that develop there, events in which I participate - meeting,
events in which I participate - meeting, debate, theater, puppet reading, street
A tool approaching the digital real push for the meeting and
For then envisioned citizen dynamics, collective and local or even global
It depends on a similar application to Twitter; it works in
similar application to Twitter; it works in a question - answer filmed
_SE arises when frankly the question of / cities rather than /
@yannou thank you, if you can duplicate in the channel # nuitdebout
I am creating an information page on the wiki about the AG
page on the wiki about the AG of the AG, I warn?
Already used to reference all entities (organizations - projects - events)
all entities (organizations - projects - events) and as to evolve with
- events) and as to evolve with new modules that put the
evolve with new modules that put the citizen at the center of
put the citizen at the center of local life and decisions (resource
org is also open source and open a model that can be
and open a model that can be a good example of organizations
can be a good example of organizations and governance horizontal and open
@bouboule 1 - copy paste if this is done on the description
0), a harvesting area, a shared furniture (eg collective etc), a shared
shared furniture (eg collective etc), a shared garden, a place of expression
a shared garden, a place of expression (type agora Republic Square) etc
org/2016/04/16/les-mots-de-la-nuit): release of sovereign debt by the francs (Citizens Bank of France)
Citizen Bank of France only for notes and coins in francs redeemable
In part against the Citizens Bank of France repays the capital of
Bank of France repays the capital of the SOVEREIGN DEBT (no interest,
capital of the SOVEREIGN DEBT (no interest, a way to punish wear
The Issuing Bank controlled francs seamlessly by citizens and led to the
seamlessly by citizens and led to the consensus of general assemblies votes,
This currency in francs, without credit card or check, that parts and
credit card or check, that parts and against the Exchangeable Notes, promote
parts and against the Exchangeable Notes, promote an economy made up of
Notes, promote an economy made up of peasants, artisans, small traders, independent
up of peasants, artisans, small traders, independent citizens, and compete on home
traders, independent citizens, and compete on home soil in their current use
on home soil in their current use a currency that is not
current use a currency that is not the black, they are francs
Moreover, once refunded sovereign debt, which would take its meaning in a
which would take its meaning in a democracy, this currency issued by
in a democracy, this currency issued by Citizens Bank of France would
issued by Citizens Bank of France would fund a social policy (socialism)
France would fund a social policy (socialism) under the control of citizens
policy (socialism) under the control of citizens who could vote in general
of citizens who could vote in general meetings the main guidelines this
in general meetings the main guidelines this policy funded by francs (not
guidelines this policy funded by francs (not so in the voting booth)
francs (not so in the voting booth) and apply when doing CONSENSUS
I think we should make a great banquet and use the local
a great banquet and use the local currency as menhir, by cons
the local currency as menhir, by cons must not prohibit the fresh
@stocky: if you do not like the banks, the franc will be
like the banks, the franc will be done for you too
should you take the Bastille at the moment, or do the Vabque
at the moment, or do the Vabque Citizen of France (that's with
the Vabque Citizen of France (that's with the venom of the snake
(that's with the venom of the snake that is prepared its antidote)
Large festive banquets where you burn bankers and shareholders by way
you burn bankers and shareholders by way of entertainment, we would round
by way of entertainment, we would round and we would dance to
would round and we would dance to the sound of the accordion
Because with menhirs pockets full we may need it, the magic
I look for people who will be neutral to complete our investigation
will be neutral to complete our investigation of violence during the movement
An idea submitted to consensus Use francs In the Constitution, stipulate that:
Use francs In the Constitution, stipulate that: The Citizens Bank of France
@cyrildelacour: ca keeps you wrote somewhere like that people who are interested
somewhere like that people who are interested can read and comment on
@cyrildelacour: because-here it's going to stay a while and then it'll jicler
stay a while and then it'll jicler with messages from other people
@Ubik: It is not about to burn, but to change against the
to burn, but to change against the Franks for a first time
against the Franks for a first time to break free of sovereign
first time to break free of sovereign debt (and use of the
of sovereign debt (and use of the Franks, a currency course only
of the Franks, a currency course only works if there is many
Ticket 5 Euros burned in Saint Montan, a village named after Montanus
Saint Montan, a village named after Montanus hermit who predicted the birth
after Montanus hermit who predicted the birth of Celine bishop Remi of
the birth of Celine bishop Remi of Reims who baptized and crowned
I look for people who will be neutral to complete our investigation
will be neutral to complete our investigation of violence during the movement
I find that these idylls of France self-sufficient and cut off from
of France self-sufficient and cut off from the world with a closed
off from the world with a closed economy it even unrealistic, less
a closed economy it even unrealistic, less than a retreat into extreme
unrealistic, less than a retreat into extreme chauvinism, to prohibit foreign trade
into extreme chauvinism, to prohibit foreign trade and make a wall around
I love this kind of argument, or you agreed to internationalism, or
argument, or you agreed to internationalism, or you're a freak who wants
internationalism, or you're a freak who wants to lock you up in
who wants to lock you up in a bunker and never tell
We went in after the attacks of 11 September 2001 (I
the attacks of 11 September 2001 (I think it attaches to an
So already competing with the on its own soil, by use,
the on its own soil, by use, it does not prevent the
by use, it does not prevent the "trade" that can be done
prevent the "trade" that can be done with other currencies, as long
be done with other currencies, as long as the latter is accepted
as long as the latter is accepted by of other banks, and
is accepted by of other banks, and it depends on the social
banks, and it depends on the social credit, ie its use in
I think globalism request to find limits and a currency promoting
to find limits and a currency promoting an economy of peasants, artisans,
currency promoting an economy of peasants, artisans, small traders, and independent (no
peasants, artisans, small traders, and independent (no CB or checks) would be
View full currency initiative to give exclusivity to the currency issue
yes this is the case you got the SNB which prints the
you got the SNB which prints the private banks but the system
prints the private banks but the system is the same as with
If we use that come francs a Citizens Bank (managed and directed
francs a Citizens Bank (managed and directed by the citizens) voluntarily (by
and directed by the citizens) voluntarily (by sacrificing for the Franks) who
voluntarily (by sacrificing for the Franks) who collected with reimburses the capital
Franks) who collected with reimburses the capital of the sovereign debt, at
the capital of the sovereign debt, at least we know what stick:
debt, at least we know what stick: using francs we free of
what stick: using francs we free of debt, it opens in the
what not, I know the more countries that have ressis to repay
Obama madman from the jaws of Holland before a room full of
I find absurd ca to compete with the euro as another currency
for me it is indeed one liberalizes currency or local currency
indeed one liberalizes currency or local currency is made as @stocky said
local currency is made as @stocky said either we return to the
@stocky said either we return to the franc and leaving the euro
Varoufakis wanted to launch a plan in the genre with a Greek
plan in the genre with a Greek local currency remaining in the
a Greek local currency remaining in the euro but nobody followed, in
in the euro but nobody followed, in my opinion because of this
followed, in my opinion because of this fact is equivalent to leaving
@lucas_dev_paris: the franc will not be managed by the state but by
be managed by the state but by a French citizen bank, to
but by a French citizen bank, to see how it works (its
@ Corentin592_dev_londres: yeah when I hear back a former France small artisans
take switzerland, countries as international banks such ca is not credible
@lucas_dev_paris: I do not take the example of Switzerland, but thought that
the example of Switzerland, but thought that it develops around the full
the problem is that out of 30 years of opening borders with
@cyrildelacour: yes but it would have a monopoly on the local currency,
have a monopoly on the local currency, which would be guaranteed by
local currency, which would be guaranteed by the state, otherwise it is
guaranteed by the state, otherwise it is the liberalization of currency and
it is the liberalization of currency and I do not believe either
@stocky: eme It seems that is the Sweden or Norway who has
is the Sweden or Norway who has no debts and has regained
how? From 2008 it condemned and imprisoned banker (as we subsidizing them
@stocky: yes there was also major scandals on the bank of the
@stocky: no, the opening abroad is enriching (or risky), but we suffer
is enriching (or risky), but we suffer from excesses, then we must
@momo ah but it gets worse, hungary led orban which is really
worse, hungary led orban which is really extreme right for once just
is really extreme right for once just to repay its debt http://www
after that is the principle of anti-globalization: make another globalization that deregulation
@lucas_dev_paris: ah He is apparently good title is exaggerated anyway, she just
good title is exaggerated anyway, she just repaid a loan to the
Why is growth so necessary that we impose in the name of
that we impose in the name of competitiveness at solidarity prices, it
name of competitiveness at solidarity prices, it requires the sacrifice of living?
This wear, as a means to parasitize the economy and as favorable
to parasitize the economy and as favorable to a minority principle that
as favorable to a minority principle that the passage nothing "socialist" as
principle that the passage nothing "socialist" as the foundation of capitalism, allows
"socialist" as the foundation of capitalism, allows money to make money, not
capitalism, allows money to make money, not only in contempt of work,
money, not only in contempt of work, but also our social and
So to not be compelled to growth or to war, do we
to growth or to war, do we not outlaw usury, starting money
Must still be sovereign to decide, but our democracy is deprived of
To understand this we must be aware of what the value placed
be aware of what the value placed in the measure of all
value placed in the measure of all things instead of keeping measure
of all things instead of keeping measure in everything, tearing the darkness
keeping measure in everything, tearing the darkness that surrounds the creation of
the darkness that surrounds the creation of money and why so many
It is not easy and even a banker shows its difficulty understanding
So here's a lesson in democracy by a Swiss banker: https://youtu
When children fight over a toy and because I do not like
toy and because I do not like lying to them: "I do
not like lying to them: "I do not believe in Santa Claus,
"I do not believe in Santa Claus, if the toys belong to
Santa Claus, if the toys belong to the dispute, confiscated!" They understand
belong to the dispute, confiscated!" They understand and learn autonomy in setting
I just reminded them the function of a toy (the first
The first function of money was to facilitate trade, and now it
was to facilitate trade, and now it is a means by usury,
now it is a means by usury, appropriating and reserve riches while
by usury, appropriating and reserve riches while imposing a form of slavery
In this insurrectionary period (as many prefects and for a while now,
many prefects and for a while now, and for example with #NuitDebout
while now, and for example with #NuitDebout movement) many slaves are ready
with #NuitDebout movement) many slaves are ready to repress other slaves to
are ready to repress other slaves to the money, but it should
slaves to the money, but it should not be more royalist than
The fact is that cash is king, sovereign debt, the fallen people,
Keep in mind that a tree does not sell fruits, money is
A Swiss banker explains in 36 minutes the scam of money creation
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Citizen Bank of France only for notes and coins in francs redeemable
In part against the Citizens Bank of France repays the capital of
Bank of France repays the capital of the SOVEREIGN DEBT (no interest,
capital of the SOVEREIGN DEBT (no interest, a way to punish wear
The Issuing Bank controlled francs seamlessly by citizens and led to the
seamlessly by citizens and led to the consensus of general assemblies votes,
This currency in francs, without credit card or check, that parts and
credit card or check, that parts and against the Exchangeable Notes, promote
parts and against the Exchangeable Notes, promote an economy made up of
Notes, promote an economy made up of peasants, artisans, small traders, independent
up of peasants, artisans, small traders, independent citizens, and compete on home
traders, independent citizens, and compete on home soil in their current use
on home soil in their current use a currency that is not
current use a currency that is not the black, they are francs
Moreover, once refunded sovereign debt, which would take its meaning in a
which would take its meaning in a democracy, this currency issued by
in a democracy, this currency issued by Citizens Bank of France would
issued by Citizens Bank of France would fund a social policy (socialism)
France would fund a social policy (socialism) under the control of citizens
policy (socialism) under the control of citizens who could vote in general
of citizens who could vote in general meetings the main guidelines this
in general meetings the main guidelines this policy funded by francs (not
guidelines this policy funded by francs (not so in the voting booth)
francs (not so in the voting booth) and apply when doing CONSENSUS
@cyrildelacour: ca copy on reddit @cyrildelacour: I think it would be nice
@cyrildelacour: I think it would be nice to avoid the posts has
be nice to avoid the posts has extension like that, especially repeatedly
bouboule thank you to the tool list, it will serve us and
tool list, it will serve us and thank you to those who
us and thank you to those who organize wiki that is very
Why is growth so necessary that we impose in the name of
that we impose in the name of competitiveness at solidarity prices, she
An idea submitted to consensus Use francs In the Constitution, stipulate that:
Use francs In the Constitution, stipulate that: The Citizens Bank of France
Well basically leave the state only create money, that will prevent abuse
@lucas_dev_paris: is it to read: Citizens Bank of France managed transparently (not
Citizens Bank of France managed transparently (not independent) and directed by consensus
transparently (not independent) and directed by consensus by the General Meetings of
it is a chemical equation, there will always be people who want
there will always be people who want to enjoy, there will always
who want to enjoy, there will always be people who will not
@stocky: prevention is better than cure: this new constitution Citizens Bank of
ND Just look to see that the AGs are subject to
see that the AGs are subject to the same struggles and abuse
subject to the same struggles and abuse of power that the system
I note that the periscope Romain Leclerc it was about (money) in
Romain Leclerc it was about (money) in Paris Republic Square just a
#breakingnews radiodebout has decided to close its site, I do not know
close its site, I do not know any more for the moment
So it would in addition Citizen Bank of France is decentralized (see
Citizen Bank of France is decentralized (see cybernetic principles), so dependent on
decentralized (see cybernetic principles), so dependent on general meetings (plural): a new
for me it would be enough to let the European Central Bank
enough to let the European Central Bank the possibility of inflation, because
Central Bank the possibility of inflation, because basically it is ca debate
no need to overhaul the whole system and destroy the EU in
@lucas_dev_paris: better to let the franc to citizens and usurers, these vultures!
@lucas_dev_paris: I have not personally "advantage" of printing money (scriptural writings) European,
"advantage" of printing money (scriptural writings) European, but instead I see his
Output or not the euro, not being an economist is hard to
But at a minimum it would take a public debate, instead
it would take a public debate, instead of ca we are told
debate, instead of ca we are told only that the output of
are told only that the output of the euro c is a
output of the euro c is a disaster, a disaster for that?
is a disaster, a disaster for that? And night stand lets discuss
for that? And night stand lets discuss these issues, it's been fun!
I heard a woman screaming on a REDIF of radiodebout on
screaming on a REDIF of radiodebout on gender and the right woman
@guigz: out of as I have suggested, is an idea subject to
have suggested, is an idea subject to the consensus to use francs
subject to the consensus to use francs issued by a bank dependent
use francs issued by a bank dependent citizens that underpin the project
bank dependent citizens that underpin the project to release all sovereign debt
the project to release all sovereign debt in a first time, then
sovereign debt in a first time, then fund a social policy under
@cyrildelacour: totally agree - but it is clearly a revolutionary idea! difficult
it is clearly a revolutionary idea! difficult to reasonably measure the consequences,
idea! difficult to reasonably measure the consequences, it deserves a real debate
Hello, I'm new and I love pareticiper and be useful, what can
love pareticiper and be useful, what can I do? I am English
what can I do? I am English (fluent French and English) and
am English (fluent French and English) and I studied the UK policy
Why is growth so necessary that we impose in the name of
that we impose in the name of competitiveness at solidarity prices, she
I am the only active Mod reddit, send me a PM if
@stocky: on my twitter and my browser the shortlinks do not work?
my browser the shortlinks do not work? I'm not a computer but
not work? I'm not a computer but it seems a bit odd
@anonboxis: currently have a revolutionary idea can be dangerous, so much the
idea can be dangerous, so much the spread fast fast fast
About the show changed to: Welcome to the chat Nights Stand by
Wow, I just saw the video talk Varoufakis a night stand and
video talk Varoufakis a night stand and this is my friend who
stand and this is my friend who made the tradution the microphone
@anonboxis: I liked her treatment of the translation, as if Varoufakis it
@anonboxis: another good sign, extraordinary 5mn Varoufakis, barely more than others by
5mn Varoufakis, barely more than others by counting the time taken for
@anonboxis: and welcome the public, mixed, Varoufakis struggle symbol, but fails
@anonboxis: for me the truths that are revealed, people awakening: shared enthusiasm!
State of Emergency, the US Army wants s to France for safety
If you want to help a very nice person (me) to write
a very nice person (me) to write an article on the use
to write an article on the use of free software at night
the use of free software at night it goes up on the
This kind of items: would respond on the form because the expressed
Terrorized by almost everything, the government prefers to leave to settle a
guigz: any article published entitled to one answer is the right of
I suggest that each participant at night standing request that is
participant at night standing request that is issued its own right of
Lille: for the "right of reply" experience (the media spreading the lies
reply" experience (the media spreading the lies of Struck MP who make
the lies of Struck MP who make me look like a faith)
who make me look like a faith) that "right of reply" does
a faith) that "right of reply" does not exist in some cases
reply" does not exist in some cases (when Freemasonry ordered some obscurantism)
Lille: and on a timely topic: the hidden work of children (not
topic: the hidden work of children (not sanctioned by the state, on
Cyril: when you speak of "Freemasons" who orders a obscurantism, I must
"Freemasons" who orders a obscurantism, I must admit that you make yourself
I must admit that you make yourself very well pass for a
Lille: not wrong! but in addition to this approach discuss the arguments
addition to this approach discuss the arguments in committee (after such communication)
the arguments in committee (after such communication) may be interesting then respond
such communication) may be interesting then respond by web media as the
then respond by web media as the site or wiki to centralize
Chinese Freemasons Jews who control the media and the soup recipe bio,
the media and the soup recipe bio, and that prevent us from
recipe bio, and that prevent us from sharing videos on the Internet
us from sharing videos on the Internet while writing false news items
Good evening to all, I just Messina in Italy and I suggested
just Messina in Italy and I suggested to friends to launch a
# 49mars #nuitdebout #livedebout #reporterdebout #tvdeboutlive #Republique Katch # # stmaur #action
@guigz: everyone can send individual right of reply, and Night Stand ask
right of reply, and Night Stand ask that everything be published as
Stand ask that everything be published as a single right answer I
it's a ghost town of a participatory point of view and
of a participatory point of view and it'll be difficult to involve
view and it'll be difficult to involve teachers to talk about right
to involve teachers to talk about right but I have to because
# 49mars #nuitdebout #livedebout #reporterdebout #tvdeboutlive #Republique Katch # # stmaur #action
@guigz: I let you take care of you then, I can not,
Manifest seems far from the daily concerns of the inhabitants of Paris
I know it would hurt the ass and hurt Macbook two or
the ass and hurt Macbook two or three people Repub 'to go,
two or three people Repub 'to go, but it would not hurt
'to go, but it would not hurt to involve those most concerned,
you defend Freemasonry through which it must pass (at one time?), according
it must pass (at one time?), according to Holland, when one believes
F Holland: "You have to go through Freemasonry if one believes in
I thought I read that ca take into suburban and commuter 7villes
ca take into suburban and commuter 7villes already had organized ND (via
faciement you fall into the trap of division brought by media @stocky:
trap of division brought by media @stocky: Freemasonry as you love? http://blogs
"I just eradicate international Masonic network!" It is with his cries, Thursday,
network!" It is with his cries, Thursday, March 12, the aggressor Pascal
cries, Thursday, March 12, the aggressor Pascal Terrace, PS deputy of the
aggressor Pascal Terrace, PS deputy of the Ardeche and member of GODF,
of the Ardeche and member of GODF, lunged at his victim by
of GODF, lunged at his victim by hitting her a slap and
Wow, you really want the media in general, you know there's not
fr money creation in 2009, Freemasonry fell on me with the film
Freemasonry fell on me with the film "Tom The Truant" In 2010
the film "Tom The Truant" In 2010 (aggressive manipulation based on the
movie film whose behind the scenes turns to family drama to the
scenes turns to family drama to the actress and the youngest plateau
Well, I thought you were conspi less' than that and less interneto-centered,
conspi less' than that and less interneto-centered, so I'll resign myself, not
less interneto-centered, so I'll resign myself, not to join and continue throwing
myself, not to join and continue throwing cobblestones at random throughout the
@satanicwarmaster: Media form the first power because they spread beliefs that prevail
Fortunately there Google the great oracle to tell the truth always, right?
eg "propaganda is to release the wear is at its reference shareholder"
It may well be good journalists, your speech is not good to
journalists, your speech is not good to hear you, we should all
good to hear you, we should all take is the discourse of
Even good journalists must adhere to a media field in poor condition
@satanicwarmaster: no, we have to stop believing the lies broadcast on TV
stop believing the lies broadcast on TV for example, the most effective
on TV for example, the most effective is to have no TV
That does not stop to accept bias, people can judge and think
accept bias, people can judge and think for themselves, you know everyone
and think for themselves, you know everyone is not stupid in this
The problem is not journalism, but conivence with power, men of power
So suddenly the editorial lines are very far from what is
lines are very far from what is called information, and closer to
what is called information, and closer to the propagade as it is
closer to the propagade as it is filtered and serve interests foremost
If there were not good journalists I have nothing knew about this
Elelinde, how do you explain that you learn every day on this
that you learn every day on this or that man / political
guard dogs or kept (packaged) held by the wages of fear of
held by the wages of fear of losing the skin noodles and
@satanicwarmaster: with a nickname like the holds is maybe you should stop
Mediapart for these are facts which I testify, I will inform
if you had heard from bourdin ca would have more credit?
from bourdin ca would have more credit? * Not * not *
@ Virgile_r LIVE is #Periscope Nonviolent Action FLASH #nuitdebout Paris https://www
there's something I find a bit absurd, instead of taking up arms,
bit absurd, instead of taking up arms, the Arab peoples are in
Mediapart for years that I tanned them with this: undeclared work (with
tanned them with this: undeclared work (with the complicity of Mediapart also
work (with the complicity of Mediapart also therefore) children to the cinema,
Mediapart also therefore) children to the cinema, that is "justice"? It condemns
the cinema, that is "justice"? It condemns the father who is opposed
It condemns the father who is opposed by removing parental authority, in
movie film whose behind the scenes turns to family drama to the
scenes turns to family drama to the actress and the youngest plateau
@mediapart why do not you answer? It is not in your line
answer? It is not in your line of sight # #travail the
your line of sight # #travail the hidden children to the cinema
# 49mars #nuitdebout #livedebout #reporterdebout #tvdeboutlive #Republique Katch # # stmaur #action
the franc masonry it may not be the priority, unless you want
not be the priority, unless you want to discredit the movement by
@cyrildelacour: So, Mediapart does not mention a Masonic thing that haunts you
mention a Masonic thing that haunts you for years you're right, must
haunts you for years you're right, must print some a conspiracy somewhere!
"One of the first decisions may be whether everyone is welcome in
Starting from the square, between the soup stand and playground, Thomas,
between the soup stand and playground, Thomas, a student came simply curious,
playground, Thomas, a student came simply curious, tells mishap: "After asking me
simply curious, tells mishap: "After asking me a cigarette, a girl said
asking me a cigarette, a girl said to me 'you are wearing
girl said to me 'you are wearing a Barbour' [the name of
are wearing a Barbour' [the name of a British brand], watch out,
name of a British brand], watch out, treated people of 'fascist' for
The academician was asked to leave the Republic Square on Saturday night
leave the Republic Square on Saturday night and has been denouncing the
reims: Right, but the "credibility" of the media under his influence is
of the media under his influence is in my opinion a danger
equipe_traduction: If the hidden work of a film crew, including a child
of a film crew, including a child 15e is not valid with
a child 15e is not valid with the labor law, I do
Ok there are people who have power, the dough, relationships, okay
But hey, it is we want good in any case, the
we want good in any case, the masons francs can get out
case, the masons francs can get out their trowels Jl'ai expected it
get out their trowels Jl'ai expected it is the system that will
expected it is the system that will not precisely're all ing this
Who is responsible for this obscurantism is not my main focus,
this obscurantism is not my main focus, but my main concern (my
main focus, but my main concern (my daughter hostage): my aim is
concern (my daughter hostage): my aim is to rip obscurantism around money
aim is to rip obscurantism around money creation so that all sort
around money creation so that all sort winner of the "power "usurers
all sort winner of the "power "usurers that leads to ruin, including
I'm not talking about Freemasonry, but it actually party like banks, countries,
but it is the pitch that freaks me Cyril It looks to
that freaks me Cyril It looks to me like a crazy hair
@ondortlejouronboitlanuit the Qur'an strongly condemns usury, and even announced a war Would
usury, and even announced a war Would you talk about these suras,
@cyrildelacour: Islamic finance, you speak of the guys who pay with their
With my hourly rate farmer from Bangladesh, I am not going to
That we learn to get around in the course of Islamic
get around in the course of Islamic Finance Master of all quantitative
It is provided by invitation only, after an initial payment of
invitation only, after an initial payment of 5000 USD and annual fees
@ondortlejouronboitlanuit: I do not know, I know the suras that condemn usury
I know the suras that condemn usury as follows (I am a
Those who eat [practice] of usury will not stand (on the
of usury will not stand (on the Day of Resurrection) except like
(on the Day of Resurrection) except like the standing of the touch
This is because they say: "Trade is just like usury," but
say: "Trade is just like usury," but Allah hath permitted trade and
He, therefore, ceases as soon as it came an admonition from
soon as it came an admonition from his Lord, may retain what
admonition from his Lord, may retain what he has previously acquired; his
O you who believe! Fear Allah; and give up what remains
Fear Allah; and give up what remains of usury, if you are
And if you do not, then take a notice of war
not, then take a notice of war from Allah and His Messenger
@ondortlejouronboitlanuit: just as it is not so much religion, constitution or laws
not so much religion, constitution or laws that matter, but what you
Thank you my little Cyril, I am delighted that you could draw
I am delighted that you could draw conclusions with three crap I
could draw conclusions with three crap I swing a cat webs on
@stocky: no, they are compromised and corrupt as all face finance (by
and corrupt as all face finance (by cunning and by force if
@satanicwarmaster: hard to deny that the interests related to wear form the
@cyrildelacour: one can imagine an Islamic bank managed by the french, finally
Islamic bank managed by the french, finally there is the word that
are already cooperative banks, what is the difference with a citizens bank?
@stocky: bank managed by the French who use the money "frank wear"
@ondortlejouronboitlanuit: the ECB is especially independent voters, not a dependent citizen bank
independent voters, not a dependent citizen bank which uses the currency, not
citizen bank which uses the currency, not so difficult to understand, right?
@cyrildelacour I prefer independent institutions to those in the pay of this
An idea submitted to consensus Use francs In the Constitution, stipulate that:
Use francs In the Constitution, stipulate that: The Citizens Bank of France
Good evening, some information on recent movements 2010/2011, the Occupy movement to
recent movements 2010/2011, the Occupy movement to try to take in Paris
But it was under Sarkozy, police pressure to Bastille and the gagging
police pressure to Bastille and the gagging of the mainstream media that
Because remember, France was indignant against the pension reform in October /
against the pension reform in October / November 2010 (3 million people
October / November 2010 (3 million people in the street, blocking the
net/node/135 CR General Assembly May 31, 2011 These committees meet at 16:30
31, 2011 These committees meet at 16:30 Thursday, June 2, 2011, on
Displaced to make them invisible, framed by CRS as impossible to
invisible, framed by CRS as impossible to do before the Bastille steps
A permanent presence of CRS, 1 every 5 m for 2
CRS, 1 every 5 m for 2 months before the steps of
for 2 months before the steps of the Bastille !! perhaps it
steps of the Bastille !! perhaps it has forgotten what France under
perhaps it has forgotten what France under Sarkozy (Hortefeux, Gueant Woerth Lagarde
Despite a decline in mobilization, Thursday, October 28, the unions called for
Thursday, October 28, the unions called for further mobilization against pension reform
@ondortlejouronboitlanuit: dependent on general meetings which decide the consensus guidelines of the
This is not the bastion that must be taken, but to the
financial cooperative that offers savings and credit of solutions-oriented projects with a
and credit of solutions-oriented projects with a social utility, ecological and /
Oh nothing everyone has the right to speak, but I read stuff
well short Explode you Just try not to pollute the wire
Just try not to pollute the wire but #accueil discuss any anything
the wire but #accueil discuss any anything in # blah or join
any anything in # blah or join a channel in the discussion
or join a channel in the discussion topic of your choice, or
the reception is to welcome, not pourles debates, if not new is
not pourles debates, if not new is lost, thank you for your
Oh nothing everyone has the right to speak, but I read stuff
well short Explode you Just try not to pollute the wire
Just try not to pollute the wire but #accueil discuss any anything
the wire but #accueil discuss any anything in # blah or join
any anything in # blah or join a channel in the discussion
or join a channel in the discussion topic of your choice, or
ADMIN: but if the majority that it was chosen for the debate
that it was chosen for the debate you can not do it
this is not "the majority", that is people who are barely, and
that is people who are barely, and who do not necessarily know
barely, and who do not necessarily know that there are other existing
@ericperif: Yes, but the bank is not supported by public meetings and
It's already warm enough for the cat to organize do not spoiling
The ideal use of the OPEN I chan says, is to get
OPEN I chan says, is to get involved in the organization, also
to get involved in the organization, also at the practical level in
ADMIN: then it will find a way to automatically redirect people who
a way to automatically redirect people who want debatre on chan crap
people who want debatre on chan crap as it is naturally inclined
comm is that arive anyway to actually organize and connect with lots
@cyrildelacour: not exactly, he really has a practical function in this chat
The agora, there is the discourse of Lyon for example, or
the discourse of Lyon for example, or we find extremely develops here
ADMIN: I have an idea, kind when you log you automatically have
kind when you log you automatically have the chan and blah accceuil
get to organize, is the great chalenge is necessary, this necessity is
Everybody just go on IRC burst, everyone does what he wants eh,
burst, everyone does what he wants eh, I do not care, I'm
wants eh, I do not care, I'm just here it is a
care, I'm just here it is a meeting point which allows people
is a meeting point which allows people of all of mouvemet get
According to the discussion of the blahblah gets off, but Simone car,
Here too you can tell me, but just be aware that
tell me, but just be aware that here it works well for
in chatter sometimes drown good ideas, but sometimes the opposite happens, an
ideas, but sometimes the opposite happens, an idea rises above the chatter
happens, an idea rises above the chatter (Finkielkraut's dream would be to
the chatter (Finkielkraut's dream would be to personally rise above the debates?)
ADMIN: one can also imagine a Home bot just talk to you
ca used to it the Shan than 1,800 people are not in
Shan than 1,800 people are not in the same place and it
ADMIN @: I want to share ideas and accept the ambient chatter
you have the right to be royalist and want to return to
be royalist and want to return to the franc, ca me a
return to the franc, ca me a key without moving the other
@ondortlejouronboitlanuit: (I do not want my face on future parts 1 Franc)
ADMIN if want that wisdom prevails (sharing) made me a royalist, then
prevails (sharing) made me a royalist, then yes I am a royalist
avoidance of kiker ca me makes me coler plus I pourais spamer
@satanicwarmaster: I'm not Jesus Christ, but yes my way I'm angry against
but yes my way I'm angry against the great priests and the
that the use of restraint here (admin what) ???? Good question, right?
here (admin what) ???? Good question, right? Who has that responsibility here?
@cyrildelacour: it's me I'm the king, I will make a dictatorship out
king, I will make a dictatorship out all night standing, it works,
dictatorship out all night standing, it works, we only speak of me
it works, we only speak of me and of my great ideas
"Close to Nicolas Sarkozy, Guillaume Peltier wants tax evaders have the opportunity
Peltier wants tax evaders have the opportunity to invest their money hidden
the opportunity to invest their money hidden in a French company in
money hidden in a French company in exchange for dropping the charges
SCAN THE POLICY - Close to Nicolas Sarkozy, Guillaume Peltier wants tax
to Nicolas Sarkozy, Guillaume Peltier wants tax evaders have the opportunity to
wants tax evaders have the opportunity to invest their money hidden in
opportunity to invest their money hidden in a French company in exchange
@amaury: @ simons-common-Lille careful there are flooder trolls how to attack, vigilance!
Activism suddenly the message that sounded interesting is somewhat swept under the
I am admin, if people need help, sometimes there is information in
Activism: did you find an entry point on the wiki for reference
I'm not Rohhh dev and I can not find my info in
we will not migrate mectoub 1,800 people to just change a home
wow this is war here This shows that the movement grows and
This shows that the movement grows and spreads on the other hand
not gonna prubert probably a teenager who discovers irc it will probably
teenager who discovers irc it will probably make a lot of things
but not trap a lot of people on other media tv /
of people on other media tv / radio and probably other chan
There is a place or a way to point out, fight against
a way to point out, fight against it if ever it gets
fight against it if ever it gets worse, or never? (Other than
it gets worse, or never? (Other than you and the admins in
Could you make an update of the app, because your version
I'm saying "no joke" x) and also "forgiveness" and also "#Joke" ^^
and also "forgiveness" and also "#Joke" ^^ but I will refrain i
I try to communicate in a positive way by listening at the
I am not therefore Lille and I'm still trying to understand the
In any case in Lille they chat channel has larigot Oh yeah,
I spend my time on the place and I try to understand,
the place and I try to understand, again, what is your overall
But in any case it is very practical to discuss when you're
I'm past the place just now, there was no Ace of Spades,
This is not really a subject to "choice" music, more culture as
subject to "choice" music, more culture as a theme, and this is
Bl I believe that access to music at all, training and listening
to music at all, training and listening without it costing an arm,
c music such as books and the rest, if you can not
and the rest, if you can not read or do, how to
I guess, I know much, but if you love music you
much, but if you love music you can make the first live,
music you can make the first live, craftsmen, and this is no
first live, craftsmen, and this is no less although a professional thing
4 decks between David Guetta and synthesizer Jean-Michel Jarre, I do not
and synthesizer Jean-Michel Jarre, I do not know what's more expensive to
yes, but if you encounter great singers, composers, players c really better
I mean you can find places you produce or not in exchange
places you produce or not in exchange for a jackpot, but fun
c as the debates, you have to have different opinions, but always
have to have different opinions, but always with a bit of profession
I do not think this is a president a lame duck that
is a president a lame duck that can find solutions to the
duck that can find solutions to the problems it has created for
so then to make a complete song that is not too boring
complete song that is not too boring to listen to, it takes
too boring to listen to, it takes more than a ptetre eh,
Yes there may be the opinion of one who also listens without
paris: at the same time must be stupid to think that there
must be stupid to think that there are only villains and nice
Besides, his tweet can not apply to him anyway because he
not apply to him anyway because he solved more problems than it
in front of Holland, there was a Hungarian prince married to an
was a Hungarian prince married to an Italian princess, it was not
I still do not understand how one can be disappointed in Holland
I too feel the shot the same people who will vote against
the same people who will vote against lepen the 2nd round for
vote against lepen the 2nd round for 2017 and will be happy
I not understand how you do to stay calm even while the
do to stay calm even while the state does not take into
while the state does not take into account your meme votes rundom
ah yes, that clearly, I revel in advance all disappointed Hollandisme who
revel in advance all disappointed Hollandisme who will go to vote in
Hollandisme who will go to vote in the second round Juppalways stay
I think in Switzerland if the state does not prennait a vote
the state does not prennait a vote into account he would overthrow
Yes but it is not used to it, not many people would
used to it, not many people would the mouth for something he
in Switzerland, they are all from Swiss cows make milk and cuckoos
@stocky: I think the state is more or less enthusiasm to sit
is more or less enthusiasm to sit on voting against mass immigration
Swiss it benefit both the "situation" but shhh eh! we love them
"situation" but shhh eh! we love them we will b **** well
c true, they do not mix, so you can listen to 5
@stocky: so much tension that the vote on the expulsion of foreign
the vote on the expulsion of foreign criminals has been rejected
I'm sure the "lambda" Switzerland has more influence on the French policy
Well I was referring to the discussion in the same place yesterday
the discussion in the same place yesterday around 17 / 18h it
do not return the foreign criminals should be kept here in prison
necessarily, it puts guy for smoking a joint or sold weed in
It is not even basic super smart to pile up, ditto for
super smart to pile up, ditto for hospitals, dilute the problems that
ditto for hospitals, dilute the problems that are solved more or less
the banks have little to be ca 10% of assets in
people should not look you a tote accused the banks is a
a tote accused the banks is a problem yes but it's not
is a problem yes but it's not just because of the Swiss
it's not just because of the Swiss or countries that have money
we're not in jail for selling 3 bars today in France, it
selling 3 bars today in France, it takes a lot more than
No he just play the game of the room and it works
yeah we're going to jail when you get aggresser boxed for example
This time the prison, I tend to believe those who have "lived"
tend to believe those who have "lived" the thing more or less,
have "lived" the thing more or less, because trust what is said
or less, because trust what is said like that, the "one says"
in my opinion your current problems is ca historic date of crap
problems is ca historic date of crap that there was during the
hmm this is not entirely wrong in so far as many of
wrong in so far as many of the current state process are
the problem does not come from the revolution, at least I think
life in France, the political game was not as rotten in the
Hi, sorry su off topic, you would know how to reach the
you would know how to reach the not manifest commission, it seems
reach the not manifest commission, it seems to me that there is
it seems to me that there is a facebook group for those
there is a facebook group for those who lives not in Paris
for those who lives not in Paris but I did not find
Bah it is to show that it is the banks and the
that it is the banks and the many and varied gadgets accused,
and the many and varied gadgets accused, all of which are created
gadgets accused, all of which are created by people just like us
@ Alexis1009: I do not know more than you, it seems anyway
know more than you, it seems anyway that direct contact with the
seems anyway that direct contact with the commissions are increasingly a arlienne
me my dream is a deep learning about the hardship of people's
And the draw you think what? This is not a good idea
be it a player or elbows jacky the PMU, which puts full
elbows jacky the PMU, which puts full excavation with the money I
@Cmoi: As a computer, there is nothing worse than relying on artificial
Which was tested there a long time successfully in ancient Greece it
Aix: Yes but it will not pass in the head because of
not pass in the head because of the people-the Greeks had slaves
they had the steam engine but they did not care because-they
be it a player or elbows jacky the PMU, which puts full
elbows jacky the PMU, which puts full excavation with the money I
JACKY PRESIDENT! yes ancient greece had the steam engine JAmes watt fuck
@Cmoi: An artificial intelligence that is arbitrary and in addition it obscured
@Cmoi: No I do not see a political system that you can
see a political system that you can explain to a child is
good in any case it is futuristic but it's not too out
is futuristic but it's not too out of it to be "good"
too out of it to be "good" while Greece it had market
a computer is UNABLE to get the go Oh and if you
get the go Oh and if you calculate the worker dying on
if you calculate the worker dying on average a year XX XX
@stocky: (re) we are human, political animals (the time we live in
political animals (the time we live in "society" Politicians are they doing
live in "society" Politicians are they doing in the jargon, this is
they doing in the jargon, this is because their policy is not
ca pointless to calculate pensions if one has an unconditional basic income
Yet a different vision of the "debt crisis", ca talking about Belgium,
the "debt crisis", ca talking about Belgium, but it can be done
about Belgium, but it can be done parallel with all European countries
you create an advice if the thing is too enflame to block
like robot that calculates the stock market and that are crap and
not stocky, robots who calculated the course of the scholarships are not
An assembly of people who are drawn, compensation, regularly renewed with one
you publish a crappy stuff on twitter and your robot it is
the computer must constantly take decision to have a solution that fits
Aix: how fair and impartial? I would say that it depends on
I would say that it depends on the decision, in an emergency
Yes stocky normal well you publish a crappy stuff on twitter your
publish a crappy stuff on twitter your course will go down anyway
@Cmoi: Then imagine a policy with robots that analyze people, they just
well you create an open source with a comprehensible and understandable algo
then indeed artificial intelligence is fun, it helps to globalize, but there's
fun, it helps to globalize, but there's always a purpose and that
@Cmoi: Gender everyone says that there will be a war to laugh,
there will be a war to laugh, and the robot analyzes ca
to laugh, and the robot analyzes ca and it sends missile with
@Cmoi: Precisely for this that you can use the decision aid, but
you can use the decision aid, but the algorithm will not decide
aid, but the algorithm will not decide in your place that is
this is not an income given to all without @Cmoi condition to
given to all without @Cmoi condition to have enough to live on
yeah well that's not what nimporte? Custom I stopped to work if
nimporte? Custom I stopped to work if I have an unconditional income
@Cmoi: A "sensor well be" I would say money, otherwise we are
@Cmoi: Everyone says AC and in fact there have been surveys and
in fact there have been surveys and the majority of people would
surveys and the majority of people would continue to work because-you mad
people would continue to work because-you mad when you anything you need
I confess to the algorithm is not the time, but again in
I can give you lessons if you want @ Juju29: we gossiped
if you want @ Juju29: we gossiped on another chan about this?
@Cmoi But as you are a minority you pose no problem to
a minority you pose no problem to the system of basic income
@stocky: besides there are plenty of people who bump currently in republic
fr otherwise the radio page of the site, I find it more
Every day there are thousands to occupy public space to take our
Join us now, and decide together our common future in this
decide together our common future in this political movement or party without
Is it possible to create a channel currency / basic income /
this would be an opportunity to get involved in citizen initiatives, take
to get involved in citizen initiatives, take the time to learn an
initiatives, take the time to learn an artistic practice simple examples
@Cmoi: Money has the value that we give him is that piece
that we give him is that piece of paper or vacuum often
I see here that "Home" and "communication", there is another channel list?
the problem with this basic income history / salary for life and
income history / salary for life and all that, is that it
life and all that, is that it is far, far too far
I do not say unthinkable, but it is more a horizon
in short, we must stop thinking that the relationship between money and
@Cmoi: Must also know that the money you possess today is the
monetary revolution - Debate between Chouard Etienne Sthane and Jean Baptiste Laborde
the problem is that you do ca on your country, but you
@Cmoi: Biensur she leaves the country, it is concurance with other currencies
@Cmoi: Then or not she not come out, you can also tell
not come out, you can also tell you to have two currencies
Hello everyone! if you want to debate and there is a report
to debate and there is a report on a pad come on