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frankly I'll be honest, Chouard he's a good
honest, Chouard he's a good guy he has
a good guy he has ideas but he
he has ideas but he is indoctrinated by
but he is indoctrinated by his extreme right
indoctrinated by his extreme right friends when he
extreme right friends when he begins to speak
when he begins to speak of borders we
to speak of borders we sense that goes
borders we sense that goes beyond its subject,
that goes beyond its subject, criticizing globalism it
its subject, criticizing globalism it is one thing
globalism it is one thing but you have
one thing but you have put your finger
you have put your finger on specific items
your finger on specific items to get out
specific items to get out of the fog
finally good because you stop talking about
because you stop talking about it, all is
talking about it, all is not throwing as
all is not throwing as many find common
Is not a subject that is not
a subject that is not debate here I
is not debate here I am comfortably thank
Then keep only what brings us Sent,
only what brings us Sent, I hardly supports
us Sent, I hardly supports the inaccuracies then
hardly supports the inaccuracies then I will not
inaccuracies then I will not let what I
will not let what I see: Etienne Chouard's
what I see: Etienne Chouard's borders especially in
Etienne Chouard's borders especially in reading Debray "Praise
especially in reading Debray "Praise border" which has
Debray "Praise border" which has nothing to do
which has nothing to do with a quote
to do with a quote " right-wing indoctrination
me what bothers me is that countries such
me is that countries such as France benefiting
countries such as France benefiting from weak currencies
France benefiting from weak currencies (eg in Africa)
weak currencies (eg in Africa) to steal the
in Africa) to steal the resources of this
what bothers me is that the last
me is that the last section of the
the last section of the preamble 46 is
of the preamble 46 is still not respected
46 is still not respected (CFA franc etc
) while it was inspired by a speech
was inspired by a speech of 44 and
a speech of 44 and the blood flowed,
44 and the blood flowed, Africa has sacrificed
blood flowed, Africa has sacrificed his son for
has sacrificed his son for Europe and France
son for Europe and France and today they
and France and today they are treated as
today they are treated as a sub-continent and
treated as a sub-continent and me it gives
sub-continent and me it gives me the creeps
I watched the debate between firstly the
the debate between firstly the economist and philosopher
firstly the economist and philosopher Fric Lordon and
and philosopher Fric Lordon and secondly anthropologist David
I was impressed by their difference in
impressed by their difference in that Lordon seemed
difference in that Lordon seemed to have a
Lordon seemed to have a kind of political
have a kind of political program (end of
of political program (end of private ownership of
(end of private ownership of means of production,
ownership of means of production, for example) while
of production, for example) while Graeber simply wanted
example) while Graeber simply wanted "to be left
simply wanted "to be left to the people
@Reveur Yes that is what I say it
is what I say it critical for the
say it critical for the eu borders too
for the eu borders too porous, as the
Glad to raise the level Seriously, what bothers
the level Seriously, what bothers me in the
what bothers me in the first place is
in the first place is that there is
place is that there is inconsiderable number of
there is inconsiderable number of injustices in this
In this sense, I fully support the
sense, I fully support the idea of ??convergence
The question "what to bring together the struggles?"
to bring together the struggles?" and I bring
the struggles?" and I bring a solution in
I bring a solution in this post: https://pouvoiraupeuple
Fric Lordon said: "In France, someone who says
"In France, someone who says that he is
who says that he is neither right nor
he is neither right nor left is invariably
right nor left is invariably right, or right
The problem is that say "left" or "right"
that say "left" or "right" or "center" does
or "right" or "center" does not suggest a
"center" does not suggest a popular solution, because
suggest a popular solution, because it cleaves the
What I am advocating in this post
am advocating in this post is to put
this post is to put aside labels (eg
to put aside labels (eg I'm libertarian in
labels (eg I'm libertarian in terms of moral
libertarian in terms of moral values ??but I
of moral values ??but I do not put
??but I do not put it forward because
not put it forward because it is cleaving)
I do not wish to cleave a moral,
wish to cleave a moral, but to unite
a moral, but to unite on a meta-political
to unite on a meta-political struggle that is
a meta-political struggle that is to say, a
that is to say, a struggle that transcends
say, a struggle that transcends current divisions and
that transcends current divisions and will allow us
divisions and will allow us to unite on
allow us to unite on the type of
unite on the type of social and institutional
type of social and institutional structures that we
and institutional structures that we wish to see
A left and right there are people who
right there are people who want to fight
people who want to fight against neoliberalism, respect
to fight against neoliberalism, respect freedom of expression,
neoliberalism, respect freedom of expression, save social security
these structures must be Dase on ideology, which
be Dase on ideology, which has been determine
To determine and / or provide all the
/ or provide all the values ??and objectives
all the values ??and objectives that unite us,
??and objectives that unite us, do not hesitate
unite us, do not hesitate to participate on
hello brother, I am going there soon The
am going there soon The only ideology that
soon The only ideology that go away is
ideology that go away is one that temporarily
away is one that temporarily puts aside all
that temporarily puts aside all the others, by
aside all the others, by uniting to implement
others, by uniting to implement democratic meta-political structures
I just read a little up there anthony,
a little up there anthony, the "end of
there anthony, the "end of private ownership of
"end of private ownership of the means of
ownership of the means of production" is not
means of production" is not an idea invented
is not an idea invented by Lordon, I
idea invented by Lordon, I do not know
Lordon, I do not know if it can
not know if it can reasonably qualify program
but it's that I'm not you, you can
I'm not you, you can not determine "meta-democratic
you can not determine "meta-democratic political structures we
determine "meta-democratic political structures we need" without ideological
"An ideology is a predefined system of ideas,
a predefined system of ideas, also called categories,
of ideas, also called categories, from which reality
called categories, from which reality is analyzed, as
which reality is analyzed, as opposed to an
analyzed, as opposed to an intuitive knowledge of
to an intuitive knowledge of perceived tangible reality
How do you succeed in extracting an
you succeed in extracting an ideology 'unique' by
extracting an ideology 'unique' by inspiring you to
'unique' by inspiring you to such thinkers: Franis
you to such thinkers: Franis Asselineau, Sylvain Baron,
thinkers: Franis Asselineau, Sylvain Baron, Aurien Bernier, Olivier
Sylvain Baron, Aurien Bernier, Olivier Berruyer, Jean Bricmont,
Bernier, Olivier Berruyer, Jean Bricmont, ienne Chouard Francis
Jean Bricmont, ienne Chouard Francis Cousin, Michel Collon,
Chouard Francis Cousin, Michel Collon, Franck Lepage Fric
Michel Collon, Franck Lepage Fric Lordon, Jacques Sapir
That is to say, how one sets
to say, how one sets superior rules for
one sets superior rules for operation of the
I think we can not speak of "democracy"
can not speak of "democracy" without a fundamental
of "democracy" without a fundamental critique of the
a fundamental critique of the values ??that support
there are hundreds of ways to organize the
of ways to organize the votes and they
organize the votes and they influence the results
As long as we imagine voting to
as we imagine voting to establish power over
voting to establish power over a majority, it
power over a majority, it will not change
and there are mass influence techniques, I think
mass influence techniques, I think of astroturfing (those
I think of astroturfing (those who have access
astroturfing (those who have access to research UNmotor
besancon: they are easily influenced because the system
easily influenced because the system ensures that we
the system ensures that we are not interested
that means everything and nothing impressionable, the problem
and nothing impressionable, the problem is rather that
the problem is rather that a minority of
rather that a minority of dominant influence of
minority of dominant influence of a majority of
the mechanisms of mass influence are identifiable and
mass influence are identifiable and possible to remove
identifiable and possible to remove (I think the
to remove (I think the media held by
think the media held by the richest of
No, the problem is that many people prefer
is that many people prefer the matter to
people prefer the matter to TV places to
matter to TV places to take tte on
places to take tte on subjects of which
tte on subjects of which they were not
We can not have a democratic system
not have a democratic system if we stupefies
democratic system if we stupefies watching TV and
we stupefies watching TV and resigns what is
TV and resigns what is happening in our
what is happening in our neighborhood, city, region,
the television industries consciously play with the scientific
consciously play with the scientific knowledge of addiction
the scientific knowledge of addiction to pleasure
Feel free to carry on your conversations #blabla
carry on your conversations #blabla to facilitate the
conversations #blabla to facilitate the arrival of newcomers
if you see the audience as victims of
the audience as victims of images dealers, suddenly,
victims of images dealers, suddenly, they are far
dealers, suddenly, they are far less responsible ^^
ah ok I arrived, I thought it was
arrived, I thought it was nice to be
it was nice to be greeted with a
Perhaps you like me to come to the
me to come to the conclusion that leaving
to the conclusion that leaving the majority choose
that leaving the majority choose is inefficase, essential
majority choose is inefficase, essential questions are asked
inefficase, essential questions are asked to people who
are asked to people who know nothing there
people who know nothing there and it is
nothing there and it is expected that the
it is expected that the most popular answer
that the most popular answer is the right
not you see, it is the logical consequence
it is the logical consequence to a concrete
besancon: it is to qualify but I also
to qualify but I also see more elections
I also see more elections as a power
more elections as a power against (someone too
a power against (someone too unpopular will not
(someone too unpopular will not be renewed) than
will not be renewed) than a real exercise
besancon defends negative the appearance of a strong
the appearance of a strong leader, which is
a strong leader, which is the program of
which is the program of the extreme right,
program of the extreme right, who tries, as
extreme right, who tries, as we know, to
tries, as we know, to direct the movement
It starts from the recognition that we
from the recognition that we share (the vote
that we share (the vote does not) to
(the vote does not) to bring us to
not) to bring us to "we need a
us to "we need a leader who knows
need a leader who knows better than the
for me democracy is not only of all
is not only of all exercise our power
of all exercise our power by the state
our power by the state apparatus but also
the state apparatus but also to limit its
but also to limit its power and guarantee
limit its power and guarantee civil liberties to
and guarantee civil liberties to organize ALSO in
liberties to organize ALSO in other forms of
ALSO in other forms of exercise of power
forms of exercise of power as a demonstration
VDSO thank you, I'm interested to me is
I'm interested to me is how the fran
me is how the fran it will coordinate
Can t have overcome egos to arrive
have overcome egos to arrive at common points
to arrive at common points of convergence in
common points of convergence in a country like
convergence in a country like ours? What tools
country like ours? What tools are in place
What tools are in place to arrive at
in place to arrive at a common coordination
arrive at a common coordination between the different
no management team will know better than me
will know better than me what life, and
than me what life, and will have access
life, and will have access to the creativity
have access to the creativity that comes from
the creativity that comes from a group of
personally I think many people in this movement
many people in this movement limit their political
this movement limit their political vision for a
their political vision for a reform of the
for a reform of the state and representative
of the state and representative system as politics
and representative system as politics and power are
as politics and power are also outside this
@galaad why France should it remain as it?
should it remain as it? We have known
as it? We have known for some time
have known for some time that democracy works
some time that democracy works best in smaller
democracy works best in smaller groups, coordinate the
in smaller groups, coordinate the whole France is
coordinate the whole France is to launch a
France is to launch a challenge that we
launch a challenge that we will be able
that we will be able to deal with
be able to deal with much more experience
France is changing and evolving, there is today
and evolving, there is today in every city
is today in every city people who are
every city people who are open ag to
who are open ag to defend their rights,
ag to defend their rights, blocked the national
their rights, blocked the national scene, the problem
the national scene, the problem and the major
the problem and the major challenge (for me)
the major challenge (for me) is the coordination
(for me) is the coordination between all its
the coordination between all its ag and all
Can you do me by your conclusions
do me by your conclusions in relation to
your conclusions in relation to the concept works
relation to the concept works best in small
concept works best in small groups? it is
in small groups? it is not currently creating
it is not currently creating this experience and
currently creating this experience and the reason for
there are minutes of ag we can take
of ag we can take a little from
can take a little from day to day
little from day to day what it says
to day what it says instead of the
Toulouse: Tigger assaulted participants of Night Stand with
Monday night, well drunk man dressed as Tigger
drunk man dressed as Tigger attacked the participants
as Tigger attacked the participants of Night Stand,
the participants of Night Stand, Place du Capitole
On this point it will be interesting to
it will be interesting to all online accounts
interesting to all online accounts rendered ag each
online accounts rendered ag each city, then make
ag each city, then make groupings of commissions
then make groupings of commissions on the same
of commissions on the same subjects, the movement
the same subjects, the movement of Toulouse offers
the movement of Toulouse offers a trial component:
fr / wiki / Cities / Toulouse /
I will discuss in another article that is
in another article that is planned, I will
that is planned, I will also do a
I will also do a series on the
do a series on the 3 mandates Thatcher
on the 3 mandates Thatcher etc to try
mandates Thatcher etc to try to vary the
to try to vary the geographic, temporal, political
(By cons I would suggest to bring out
would suggest to bring out - somewhere /
bring out - somewhere / typo - about
somewhere / typo - about the "history and
- about the "history and analysis of citizens'
"history and analysis of citizens' movements and initiatives
of citizens' movements and initiatives and alternative policies,
and initiatives and alternative policies, pitfalls to avoid
alternative policies, pitfalls to avoid - with plural
in the sense that it is not history
that it is not history to make history
not history to make history - c seriously
make history - c seriously intended lesson to
c seriously intended lesson to not crash Do
lesson to not crash Do a little pub
crash Do a little pub to this video,
little pub to this video, for those who
this video, for those who have not seen
yes it is true that it is not
true that it is not just the story,
is not just the story, in fact I'm
the story, in fact I'm trying to find
fact I'm trying to find sociologists, ethnologists to
to find sociologists, ethnologists to participate in articles
ethnologists to participate in articles in the college
in articles in the college where I am
the college where I am to feed and
I am to feed and diversify the views
Or rather by adding this link to the
adding this link to the documents you are
to the documents you are working on to
you are working on to give other tracks,
on to give other tracks, other information, perhaps
other tracks, other information, perhaps a different vision
Public consultation on the redevelopment of Republic Square
And if people have access to university /
have access to university / authors / journalists
university / authors / journalists who would be
/ journalists who would be likely to answer
would be likely to answer questions through interviews
to answer questions through interviews organized for Night
through interviews organized for Night Stand, it can
for Night Stand, it can be very interesting
@Momo: RadioDebout, TVDebout, wiki, wherever we can disseminate
wiki, wherever we can disseminate information and ideas
fr website: It is normal that the program
is normal that the program is March 50
the program is March 50 in double (not
Every day there are thousands to occupy public
are thousands to occupy public space to take
occupy public space to take our place in
Join us now, and decide together our
now, and decide together our common future in
together our common future in this political movement
future in this political movement or party without
Reminder: we organize the TVdebout a "AG the
the TVdebout a "AG the AG" on Friday
I propose that we discuss in #agdesag you
we discuss in #agdesag you know where I
#agdesag you know where I can find it,
where I can find it, I intervened and
find it, I intervened and I hope that
intervened and I hope that this important speech
hope that this important speech I can make
The report city / digital, I see
city / digital, I see it focused on
I see it focused on the ability of
focused on the ability of every citizen to
ability of every citizen to find the wealth
citizen to find the wealth of its territory
the wealth of its territory (actors operating there,
its territory (actors operating there, initiatives that develop
operating there, initiatives that develop there, events in
that develop there, events in which I participate
events in which I participate - meeting, debate,
I participate - meeting, debate, theater, puppet reading,
meeting, debate, theater, puppet reading, street furniture, etc
A tool approaching the digital real push
approaching the digital real push for the meeting
real push for the meeting and exchange
For then envisioned citizen dynamics, collective and
envisioned citizen dynamics, collective and local or even
It depends on a similar application to
on a similar application to Twitter; it works
application to Twitter; it works in a question
it works in a question - answer filmed
_SE arises when frankly the question of /
frankly the question of / cities rather than
@yannou thank you, if you can duplicate in
if you can duplicate in the channel #
I am creating an information page on the
an information page on the wiki about the
on the wiki about the AG of the
about the AG of the AG, I warn?
Already used to reference all entities (organizations
to reference all entities (organizations - projects -
entities (organizations - projects - events) and as
projects - events) and as to evolve with
and as to evolve with new modules that
evolve with new modules that put the citizen
modules that put the citizen at the center
the citizen at the center of local life
the center of local life and decisions (resource
local life and decisions (resource sharing, voting, local
org is also open source and open a
open source and open a model that can
open a model that can be a good
that can be a good example of organizations
a good example of organizations and governance horizontal
of organizations and governance horizontal and open to
@bouboule 1 - copy paste if this is
copy paste if this is done on the
this is done on the description of digital
0), a harvesting area, a shared furniture (eg
area, a shared furniture (eg collective etc), a
furniture (eg collective etc), a shared garden, a
etc), a shared garden, a place of expression
garden, a place of expression (type agora Republic
TAKING THE MEDEF AMIENS #onvautmieuxqueca #loitravail #cip #nuitdebout
AMIENS #onvautmieuxqueca #loitravail #cip #nuitdebout @ nuitdebout80 @medef
org/2016/04/16/les-mots-de-la-nuit): release of sovereign debt by the francs
sovereign debt by the francs (Citizens Bank of
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Citizen Bank of France only for notes and
France only for notes and coins in francs
In part against the Citizens Bank of France
the Citizens Bank of France repays the capital
of France repays the capital of the SOVEREIGN
the capital of the SOVEREIGN DEBT (no interest,
the SOVEREIGN DEBT (no interest, a way to
(no interest, a way to punish wear use)
The Issuing Bank controlled francs seamlessly by citizens
controlled francs seamlessly by citizens and led to
by citizens and led to the consensus of
led to the consensus of general assemblies votes,
This currency in francs, without credit card or
francs, without credit card or check, that parts
card or check, that parts and against the
that parts and against the Exchangeable Notes, promote
against the Exchangeable Notes, promote an economy made
Notes, promote an economy made up of peasants,
economy made up of peasants, artisans, small traders,
of peasants, artisans, small traders, independent citizens, and
small traders, independent citizens, and compete on home
citizens, and compete on home soil in their
on home soil in their current use a
in their current use a currency that is
use a currency that is not the black,
that is not the black, they are francs
Moreover, once refunded sovereign debt, which would take
sovereign debt, which would take its meaning in
would take its meaning in a democracy, this
meaning in a democracy, this currency issued by
democracy, this currency issued by Citizens Bank of
issued by Citizens Bank of France would fund
Bank of France would fund a social policy
would fund a social policy (socialism) under the
social policy (socialism) under the control of citizens
under the control of citizens who could vote
of citizens who could vote in general meetings
could vote in general meetings the main guidelines
general meetings the main guidelines this policy funded
main guidelines this policy funded by francs (not
policy funded by francs (not so in the
francs (not so in the voting booth) and
in the voting booth) and apply when doing
I think we should make a great banquet
should make a great banquet and use the
great banquet and use the local currency as
use the local currency as menhir, by cons
currency as menhir, by cons must not prohibit
by cons must not prohibit the fresh fish
@stocky: if you do not like the banks,
do not like the banks, the franc will
the banks, the franc will be done for
franc will be done for you too
should you take the Bastille at the moment,
the Bastille at the moment, or do the
the moment, or do the Vabque Citizen of
do the Vabque Citizen of France (that's with
Citizen of France (that's with the venom of
(that's with the venom of the snake that
venom of the snake that is prepared its
Large festive banquets where you burn bankers
banquets where you burn bankers and shareholders by
burn bankers and shareholders by way of entertainment,
shareholders by way of entertainment, we would round
of entertainment, we would round and we would
would round and we would dance to the
we would dance to the sound of the
Because with menhirs pockets full we may
menhirs pockets full we may need it, the
I look for people who will be neutral
people who will be neutral to complete our
be neutral to complete our investigation of violence
complete our investigation of violence during the movement
An idea submitted to consensus Use francs In
to consensus Use francs In the Constitution, stipulate
francs In the Constitution, stipulate that: The Citizens
Constitution, stipulate that: The Citizens Bank of France
The Citizens Bank of France only tickets and
@cyrildelacour: ca keeps you wrote somewhere like that
you wrote somewhere like that people who are
like that people who are interested can read
who are interested can read and comment on
@cyrildelacour: because-here it's going to stay a while
going to stay a while and then it'll
a while and then it'll jicler with messages
then it'll jicler with messages from other people
@Ubik: It is not about to burn, but
not about to burn, but to change against
burn, but to change against the Franks for
change against the Franks for a first time
Franks for a first time to break free
first time to break free of sovereign debt
break free of sovereign debt (and use of
sovereign debt (and use of the Franks, a
use of the Franks, a currency course only
Franks, a currency course only works if there
course only works if there is many to
Ticket 5 Euros burned in Saint Montan, a
burned in Saint Montan, a village named after
Montan, a village named after Montanus hermit who
named after Montanus hermit who predicted the birth
hermit who predicted the birth of Celine bishop
the birth of Celine bishop Remi of Reims
Celine bishop Remi of Reims who baptized and
I look for people who will be neutral
people who will be neutral to complete our
be neutral to complete our investigation of violence
complete our investigation of violence during the movement
of violence during the movement nuitdebout survey #-on-the-violence
I find that these idylls of France self-sufficient
these idylls of France self-sufficient and cut off
France self-sufficient and cut off from the world
cut off from the world with a closed
the world with a closed economy it even
a closed economy it even unrealistic, less than
it even unrealistic, less than a retreat into
less than a retreat into extreme chauvinism, to
retreat into extreme chauvinism, to prohibit foreign trade
chauvinism, to prohibit foreign trade and make a
foreign trade and make a wall around the
I love this kind of argument, or you
kind of argument, or you agreed to internationalism,
or you agreed to internationalism, or you're a
to internationalism, or you're a freak who wants
you're a freak who wants to lock you
who wants to lock you up in a
lock you up in a bunker and never
We went in after the attacks of
in after the attacks of 11 September 2001
attacks of 11 September 2001 (I think it
September 2001 (I think it attaches to an
So already competing with the on its
competing with the on its own soil, by
on its own soil, by use, it does
soil, by use, it does not prevent the
it does not prevent the "trade" that can
prevent the "trade" that can be done with
that can be done with other currencies, as
done with other currencies, as long as the
currencies, as long as the latter is accepted
as the latter is accepted by of other
is accepted by of other banks, and it
of other banks, and it depends on the
and it depends on the social credit, ie
on the social credit, ie its use in
I think globalism request to find limits
globalism request to find limits and a currency
find limits and a currency promoting an economy
a currency promoting an economy of peasants, artisans,
an economy of peasants, artisans, small traders, and
peasants, artisans, small traders, and independent (no CB
traders, and independent (no CB or checks) would
(no CB or checks) would be a power-cons
View full currency initiative to give exclusivity
currency initiative to give exclusivity to the currency
give exclusivity to the currency issue to a
yes this is the case you got the
the case you got the SNB which prints
got the SNB which prints the private banks
which prints the private banks but the system
private banks but the system is the same
the system is the same as with the
If we use that come francs a Citizens
that come francs a Citizens Bank (managed and
a Citizens Bank (managed and directed by the
(managed and directed by the citizens) voluntarily (by
by the citizens) voluntarily (by sacrificing for the
voluntarily (by sacrificing for the Franks) who collected
for the Franks) who collected with reimburses the
who collected with reimburses the capital of the
reimburses the capital of the sovereign debt, at
of the sovereign debt, at least we know
debt, at least we know what stick: using
we know what stick: using francs we free
stick: using francs we free of debt, it
we free of debt, it opens in the
what not, I know the more countries that
know the more countries that have ressis to
countries that have ressis to repay this debt
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countries that have truly independent national banks are
truly independent national banks are threatened with wars
Obama madman from the jaws of Holland before
the jaws of Holland before a room full
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I find absurd ca to compete with the
ca to compete with the euro as another
with the euro as another currency managed by
for me it is indeed one liberalizes
it is indeed one liberalizes currency or local
one liberalizes currency or local currency is made
or local currency is made as @stocky said
is made as @stocky said either we return
@stocky said either we return to the franc
we return to the franc and leaving the
Varoufakis wanted to launch a plan in the
launch a plan in the genre with a
in the genre with a Greek local currency
with a Greek local currency remaining in the
local currency remaining in the euro but nobody
in the euro but nobody followed, in my
but nobody followed, in my opinion because of
in my opinion because of this fact is
because of this fact is equivalent to leaving
@lucas_dev_paris: the franc will not be managed by
will not be managed by the state but
managed by the state but by a French
state but by a French citizen bank, to
a French citizen bank, to see how it
bank, to see how it works (its constitution)
@ Corentin592_dev_londres: yeah when I hear back a
when I hear back a former France small
back a former France small artisans and small
take switzerland, countries as international banks such
countries as international banks such ca is not
@lucas_dev_paris: I do not take the example of
not take the example of Switzerland, but thought
example of Switzerland, but thought that it develops
but thought that it develops around the full
the problem is that out of 30 years
that out of 30 years of opening borders
30 years of opening borders with the results
@cyrildelacour: yes but it would have a monopoly
it would have a monopoly on the local
a monopoly on the local currency, which would
the local currency, which would be guaranteed by
which would be guaranteed by the state, otherwise
guaranteed by the state, otherwise it is the
state, otherwise it is the liberalization of currency
is the liberalization of currency and I do
of currency and I do not believe either
I do not believe either you defend ca
@stocky: eme It seems that is the Sweden
seems that is the Sweden or Norway who
the Sweden or Norway who has no debts
Norway who has no debts and has regained
how? From 2008 it condemned and imprisoned banker
it condemned and imprisoned banker (as we subsidizing
imprisoned banker (as we subsidizing them with public
@stocky: yes there was also major scandals on
was also major scandals on the bank of
@stocky: no, the opening abroad is enriching (or
opening abroad is enriching (or risky), but we
enriching (or risky), but we suffer from excesses,
but we suffer from excesses, then we must
@momo ah but it gets worse, hungary led
it gets worse, hungary led orban which is
hungary led orban which is really extreme right
which is really extreme right for once just
extreme right for once just to repay its
after that is the principle of anti-globalization: make
the principle of anti-globalization: make another globalization that
anti-globalization: make another globalization that deregulation of capital
@ Corentin592_dev_londres yes, ca much tells me that
@lucas_dev_paris: ah He is apparently good title is
is apparently good title is exaggerated anyway, she
title is exaggerated anyway, she just repaid a
anyway, she just repaid a loan to the
Why is growth so necessary that we impose
so necessary that we impose in the name
we impose in the name of competitiveness at
the name of competitiveness at solidarity prices, it
competitiveness at solidarity prices, it requires the sacrifice
This wear, as a means to parasitize the
a means to parasitize the economy and as
parasitize the economy and as favorable to a
and as favorable to a minority principle that
to a minority principle that the passage nothing
principle that the passage nothing "socialist" as the
passage nothing "socialist" as the foundation of capitalism,
as the foundation of capitalism, allows money to
of capitalism, allows money to make money, not
money to make money, not only in contempt
money, not only in contempt of work, but
in contempt of work, but also our social
work, but also our social and especially so
So to not be compelled to growth or
be compelled to growth or to war, do
growth or to war, do we not outlaw
war, do we not outlaw usury, starting money
Must still be sovereign to decide, but our
sovereign to decide, but our democracy is deprived
but our democracy is deprived of sovereignty by
To understand this we must be aware of
we must be aware of what the value
aware of what the value placed in the
the value placed in the measure of all
in the measure of all things instead of
of all things instead of keeping measure in
instead of keeping measure in everything, tearing the
measure in everything, tearing the darkness that surrounds
tearing the darkness that surrounds the creation of
that surrounds the creation of money and why
creation of money and why so many sacrifices
It is not easy and even a banker
easy and even a banker shows its difficulty
a banker shows its difficulty understanding what money
So here's a lesson in democracy by
a lesson in democracy by a Swiss banker:
When children fight over a toy and because
over a toy and because I do not
and because I do not like lying to
do not like lying to them: "I do
lying to them: "I do not believe in
"I do not believe in Santa Claus, if
believe in Santa Claus, if the toys belong
Claus, if the toys belong to the dispute,
toys belong to the dispute, confiscated!" They understand
the dispute, confiscated!" They understand and learn autonomy
They understand and learn autonomy in setting their
I just reminded them the function of
reminded them the function of a toy (the
The first function of money was to facilitate
of money was to facilitate trade, and now
to facilitate trade, and now it is a
and now it is a means by usury,
is a means by usury, appropriating and reserve
by usury, appropriating and reserve riches while imposing
and reserve riches while imposing a form of
while imposing a form of slavery through debt
In this insurrectionary period (as many prefects and
period (as many prefects and for a while
prefects and for a while now, and for
a while now, and for example with #NuitDebout
and for example with #NuitDebout movement) many slaves
with #NuitDebout movement) many slaves are ready to
many slaves are ready to repress other slaves
ready to repress other slaves to the money,
other slaves to the money, but it should
the money, but it should not be more
it should not be more royalist than the
The fact is that cash is king, sovereign
that cash is king, sovereign debt, the fallen
king, sovereign debt, the fallen people, very fallen!
Keep in mind that a tree does not
that a tree does not sell fruits, money
does not sell fruits, money is not vital
A Swiss banker explains in 36 minutes the
explains in 36 minutes the scam of money
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Citizen Bank of France only for notes and
France only for notes and coins in francs
In part against the Citizens Bank of France
the Citizens Bank of France repays the capital
of France repays the capital of the SOVEREIGN
the capital of the SOVEREIGN DEBT (no interest,
the SOVEREIGN DEBT (no interest, a way to
(no interest, a way to punish wear use)
The Issuing Bank controlled francs seamlessly by citizens
controlled francs seamlessly by citizens and led to
by citizens and led to the consensus of
led to the consensus of general assemblies votes,
This currency in francs, without credit card or
francs, without credit card or check, that parts
card or check, that parts and against the
that parts and against the Exchangeable Notes, promote
against the Exchangeable Notes, promote an economy made
Notes, promote an economy made up of peasants,
economy made up of peasants, artisans, small traders,
of peasants, artisans, small traders, independent citizens, and
small traders, independent citizens, and compete on home
citizens, and compete on home soil in their
on home soil in their current use a
in their current use a currency that is
use a currency that is not the black,
that is not the black, they are francs
Moreover, once refunded sovereign debt, which would take
sovereign debt, which would take its meaning in
would take its meaning in a democracy, this
meaning in a democracy, this currency issued by
democracy, this currency issued by Citizens Bank of
issued by Citizens Bank of France would fund
Bank of France would fund a social policy
would fund a social policy (socialism) under the
social policy (socialism) under the control of citizens
under the control of citizens who could vote
of citizens who could vote in general meetings
could vote in general meetings the main guidelines
general meetings the main guidelines this policy funded
main guidelines this policy funded by francs (not
policy funded by francs (not so in the
francs (not so in the voting booth) and
in the voting booth) and apply when doing
@cyrildelacour: ca copy on reddit @cyrildelacour: I think
on reddit @cyrildelacour: I think it would be
I think it would be nice to avoid
would be nice to avoid the posts has
to avoid the posts has extension like that,
bouboule thank you to the tool list, it
to the tool list, it will serve us
list, it will serve us and thank you
serve us and thank you to those who
thank you to those who organize wiki that
those who organize wiki that is very well
Why is growth so necessary that we impose
so necessary that we impose in the name
we impose in the name of competitiveness at
the name of competitiveness at solidarity prices, she
An idea submitted to consensus Use francs In
to consensus Use francs In the Constitution, stipulate
francs In the Constitution, stipulate that: The Citizens
Constitution, stipulate that: The Citizens Bank of France
The Citizens Bank of France only tickets and
Well basically leave the state only create money,
the state only create money, that will prevent
create money, that will prevent abuse of the
@lucas_dev_paris: is it to read: Citizens Bank of
to read: Citizens Bank of France managed transparently
Bank of France managed transparently (not independent) and
managed transparently (not independent) and directed by consensus
independent) and directed by consensus by the General
by consensus by the General Meetings of the
the General Meetings of the French bank which
it is a chemical equation, there will always
chemical equation, there will always be people who
will always be people who want to enjoy,
people who want to enjoy, there will always
to enjoy, there will always be people who
will always be people who will not be
@stocky: prevention is better than cure: this new
better than cure: this new constitution Citizens Bank
ND Just look to see that the
look to see that the AGs are subject
that the AGs are subject to the same
are subject to the same struggles and abuse
the same struggles and abuse of power that
and abuse of power that the system in
I note that the periscope Romain Leclerc it
the periscope Romain Leclerc it was about (money)
Leclerc it was about (money) in Paris Republic
about (money) in Paris Republic Square just a
Paris Republic Square just a few minutes
#breakingnews radiodebout has decided to close its site,
decided to close its site, I do not
its site, I do not know any more
do not know any more for the moment
So it would in addition Citizen Bank of
in addition Citizen Bank of France is decentralized
Bank of France is decentralized (see cybernetic principles),
is decentralized (see cybernetic principles), so dependent on
cybernetic principles), so dependent on general meetings (plural):
dependent on general meetings (plural): a new praxis
for me it would be enough to let
would be enough to let the European Central
to let the European Central Bank the possibility
European Central Bank the possibility of inflation, because
the possibility of inflation, because basically it is
inflation, because basically it is ca debate on
it is ca debate on austerity and independence
no need to overhaul the whole system and
overhaul the whole system and destroy the EU
system and destroy the EU in passing in
@lucas_dev_paris: better to let the franc to citizens
let the franc to citizens and usurers, these
moreover they started last year it seems to
last year it seems to do quantitative easing
@lucas_dev_paris: I have not personally "advantage" of printing
not personally "advantage" of printing money (scriptural writings)
of printing money (scriptural writings) European, but instead
(scriptural writings) European, but instead I see his
Output or not the euro, not being an
the euro, not being an economist is hard
But at a minimum it would take
a minimum it would take a public debate,
would take a public debate, instead of ca
public debate, instead of ca we are told
of ca we are told only that the
are told only that the output of the
that the output of the euro c is
of the euro c is a disaster, a
c is a disaster, a disaster for that?
disaster, a disaster for that? And night stand
for that? And night stand lets discuss these
night stand lets discuss these issues, it's been
I heard a woman screaming on a
a woman screaming on a REDIF of radiodebout
on a REDIF of radiodebout on gender and
of radiodebout on gender and the right woman
@guigz: out of as I have suggested, is
as I have suggested, is an idea subject
suggested, is an idea subject to the consensus
idea subject to the consensus to use francs
the consensus to use francs issued by a
use francs issued by a bank dependent citizens
by a bank dependent citizens that underpin the
dependent citizens that underpin the project to release
underpin the project to release all sovereign debt
to release all sovereign debt in a first
sovereign debt in a first time, then fund
a first time, then fund a social policy
then fund a social policy under the control
bjr, someone would know how to cut the
know how to cut the cat's sound notifications
@cyrildelacour: totally agree - but it is clearly
- but it is clearly a revolutionary idea!
is clearly a revolutionary idea! difficult to reasonably
revolutionary idea! difficult to reasonably measure the consequences,
to reasonably measure the consequences, it deserves a
the consequences, it deserves a real debate feasibility
Hello, I'm new and I love pareticiper and
and I love pareticiper and be useful, what
pareticiper and be useful, what can I do?
useful, what can I do? I am English
I do? I am English (fluent French and
am English (fluent French and English) and I
French and English) and I studied the UK
@ Benjamin-Paris-Digital: I forwarded the link to the
Why is growth so necessary that we impose
so necessary that we impose in the name
we impose in the name of competitiveness at
the name of competitiveness at solidarity prices, she