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Bring Back Images #326

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NV4s opened this issue Oct 9, 2024 · 16 comments
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Bring Back Images #326

NV4s opened this issue Oct 9, 2024 · 16 comments

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@NV4s
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NV4s commented Oct 9, 2024

Self-explanatory but here are some reasons:

  1. It's easier to memorize and understand tech better with images instead of text
  2. Using brainstorm is now significantly harder to the point it's nearly impossible to know which tech you are choosing (on time) on a non-touch screen device
  3. Images can always be disabled and have automatically been the case when starting on a new device making this update useless
  4. Hosting the images could potentially just be done locally in the downloads instead of outsourcing it to MidJourney (if money was also a factor)
  5. I think the images were stylistic but could be improved in your view if we try generating it with other AI or use different prompts

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@kgurchiek
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I agree, adding images was one of my favorite updates to the game. Since most tech don't have unique in-game visuals, the tech images served as a way to visualize what the tech would look like, which made it more interesting and immersive.

@landgreen
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oh ok. I removed images mostly to see if people cared. If two more people say they want them back I'll return them next patch.

I removed them for a few reasons:
match the style in n-gon
some people kinda hate generative AI in games and I want to avoid that hate
to reduce the total n-gon size (although images are only about 1/3 of the total size)

@kgurchiek
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A lot of people were complaining in the community Discord, at least 4 or 5 were complaining the moment the patch notes dropped.

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kgurchiek commented Oct 9, 2024 •
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Also, regarding the ai art complaints, I personally see nothing wrong with it. From my experience a lot of people that hate ai don't have much reason other than that it's a "trend" to hate on it and/or they're scared of it. It's completely unreasonable for an indie game dev that isn't making money from their game to pay an artist for 400 images, I see nothing wrong with using AI for this. In my mind this is the perfect use of ai-generated images: not being framed on a wall and marveled at, just being used as an asset with a functional purpose in a situation where it wouldn't be feasible to hire an artist.

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NV4s commented Oct 9, 2024 via email

@Masbirb
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Masbirb commented Oct 9, 2024

I would enjoy images back or at bare minimum make it so you can view techs 3 (or more) wide instead of just 1 wide with no images

@N-gonplayer
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Yeah, totally agree with keeping images. Images help especially when finding stuff in experiment mode and brainstorming. You can always toggle them on/off also

@AnnonymousNerd87
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AnnonymousNerd87 commented Oct 9, 2024 via email

@corneeme
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corneeme commented Oct 9, 2024

The main reason I didn't like images was because they were so big, so if you found a different way to present them I would be on board

@NV4s
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NV4s commented Oct 9, 2024

Hopefully they come back next update revamped

@corneeme
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corneeme commented Oct 9, 2024

definitely

@Invincible-Atlas
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yeah, the size was always really annoying; they could probably be hosted on a free cdn.

@circle-gon
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I tried having the images, but I personally really hated them because they were so big compared to everything else. If the images were scaled down to be around the same size as the tech boxes, I would definitely enable them since they are very cool.

@landgreen
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landgreen commented Oct 10, 2024 •
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ok images are back.

I agree the images seem very large, but I can't think of a good way to make them smaller.
I could make new shorter images, but that would take too long.
I could shrink the size of the images, but that would add in empty space on the sides, and I don't think that would look good.
I could clip the lower half of images, but that would mess up about 1/3 of the images.

@AnnonymousNerd87
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AnnonymousNerd87 commented Oct 10, 2024 via email

@corneeme
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maybe you could put them on the left side of the tech, and resize it to be square

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