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2025-03-25 Workload Orchestration Agent Interfaces Focus Group Meeting #279

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2025-03-25 Workload Orchestration Agent Interfaces Focus Group Meeting #279

github-actions bot opened this issue Mar 21, 2025 · 1 comment · May be fixed by #284
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  • Chair: Armand Craig (Rockwell) - @ajcraig
  • Project Management: Sean Mcilroy (Linux Foundation) - @seanmcilroy29

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Reminder - Meeting is recorded


Agenda

  • Convene & Welcome New Participants
  • Review Agenda
  • Approve Previous Meeting Minutes - LINK

Discussions

  • Explain how Symphony accomplishes the orchestration campaigns w/ state-seeking within Symphony - Hashi
  • Discuss Symphony AI feature for testing out these various options / Other testing toolkits for this type of exercise?
  • Review reference architecture diagrams, including network and software views, to help the group better understand the nuances.
  • Discuss experiences with handling enterprise proxy and DDoS protection challenges. relevant write up via Avassa
  • Decide on various proposal options for the external team to build prototype implementations. This could be the first task the external dev team works on, create these bare bones services for the community to use in various environments for testing viability.
    1. HTTP w/ Base64 encoding
    2. Push style(Avassa proposal)
    3. HTTP2 w/ cloud events
    4. OCI Registry
  • Discuss common testing/development infrastructure. Ties to the Dev team tasks I mentioned above.
  • Next steps?

Review Project Board

  • Add work items to review or discuss from the project board/roadmap

Review PRs

  • Add PRs that need review, approval or discussion

Review Issues

  • Add issues that need review, assignment, triage, or other clarification

AOB

  • Agenda submissions added by members during the meeting

Items for next meeting

  • Add any items that should be covered in the next meeting

Next Meeting

  • 01st Apr

Adjournment



Previous meeting Notes

The meeting addressed technical and strategic issues concerning the Margo project, highlighting updates on the Avassa and OCI registry proposals. The team debated the feasibility of mutual TLS for industrial automation, weighing alternatives like regular TLS with signed messages. They emphasised the necessity for a reference implementation to test core functionalities across various network environments, aiming to balance extensibility with interoperability while focusing on key initial development and testing options.

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Summary Meeting Notes

The meeting centred on developing and standardising the Margo specification for interoperability in industrial automation. Key points included establishing a bi-directional data channel for offline scenarios, employing MTLS and QUIC protocols, and maintaining existing features while innovating. The discussion underscored the necessity of a common testing infrastructure and evaluation criteria for comparing proposals. The team recognised the importance of involving fleet managers to ensure the specification does not impede their differentiation. The next steps include constructing a testing environment and refining proposals for further evaluation.

Action Items

  • Develop evaluation criteria for the Margo management interface API options.
  • Set up a common testing infrastructure to assess the various API proposals.
  • Flesh out the details of the API proposals that are not yet fully fleshed out.
  • Coordinate with the external development team to build prototypes of the API options for testing.
  • Ensure the involvement of fleet manager representatives (e.g., SUSE, Microsoft, Red Hat) in the decision-making process.

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