Underlying Synth Usage

[smcpeck]

I understand that Synth is a sister product to Maybe, so y'all can use the API without incurring costs.

As a self-hoster, the 1000 free Synth API calls seems like it is possibly unfit to get up and running.

I am curious how the API is currently consumed in Maybe. I added 2 accounts, maybe 60 total securities, and my 1000 Synth calls were completely gone. This leads me to believe that an API call is being made for each security and each date. But Synth has a better API call where one can provide a symbol and a date range to get open/close results.

If that were used, it seems like my Synth account would've only hit about 60 API calls. (Data Enrichment is disabled in my instance.)

So ultimately, my questions here are:

• Why did all my Synth API calls get chewed up?
  • Which API routes are used heavily by Maybe when syncing new investment accounts?
  • With which payloads are those API routes being consumed? (i.e. what is the frequency of these calls?)

I have a lot of speculation about things above, but I really don't know. If I am going to pony up and pay for the Synth API, I want to know that Maybe is being a good steward and using my paid API credits in an efficient manner.

[zachgoll]

@smcpeck can you go to your settings and ensure that "Data Enrichment" is turned off?

This would be the primary source of credits consumption right now, and since the original feature release, we've made it "opt-in". Your self hosted instance may still have the original setting, which was "enabled by default"

We have this issue open to optimize this:

#1549

[smcpeck]

Data Enrichment is definitely turned off. But that doesn't mean I didn't have it on at some point and turned it off since then. After the holidays, I will start fresh with new API credits and add all my accounts from scratch with Data Enrichment disabled.

I can't say I have a clear handle on everything that got me to where I am. The whole Synth API limit kinda sneaked up on me, so I was trying to do a post-mortem.

I will report back here after the holidays and actually pay close attention to everything that I do and how it affects my Synth API limit.

Thanks again for being so quick to respond. It's quite refreshing. 🥇

[zachgoll]

Yep, you likely burned through the credits in that time window where we had it enabled by default, which we have reverted since. Should be good to go moving forward though!

[thelooter]

Just as a question, is the enrichtment limited to a certain country setting? Because that setting does not appear in my selfhosted settings. It might make more sense to keep the sitting visible but grayed out in that case

[smcpeck]

Chiming back in here...

Just looked at my instance for the first time in 2025.

Unfortunately, I probably should have decommissioned things instead of leaving it running.

Data enrichment is 110% disabled.
Synth credits are completely exhausted.

I guess I'll delete my local instance and check back in in a month. 😢

I know it is already on your radar, but some extra control over this Synth usage would be great. It is also a bit nebulous as far as what things I see that might be attributed to a lack of Synth data... so I feel like it isn't even worth trying to use Maybe for now because charts are probably incomplete/wrong, so any bug I report is probably a non-bug as it would be "expected behavior" given my Synth status.

I'm not even sold that moving to the $10/mo option would be enough, and I'm definitely not going to pony up $50/mo just to evaluate an open source option. I could do $50/year and just use Monarch.

To close out my rant, I really feel like this is going to be a huge hurdle as far as building a strong self hosted community. Just my $0.02. Hope y'all might consider linking a self hosted instance to Synth and don't force us to pay for Synth API calls coming from Maybe.