FR: native sidechain effect which applies a sidechain style volume curve to the audio routed through it

[dmt-hub]

Feature Description

Would be great to have a native mixxx effect which applies this volume (kick to sidechain-like) curve to the audio. with various timing option 1/1 1/2 1/4 1/8 1/16

[Swiftb0y]

You can achieve something similar with the already built in Tremolo effect. The main difference is that it currently only has a very limited envelope/waveform that doesn't match the kick-ducking curve as well as the one you posted.

[fwcd]

Not exactly what you're asking for, but I think it would also be cool to have support for "real" sidechain compression, i.e. sidechaining one deck to a compressor assigned to another one.

[dmt-hub]

Real sidechaining would def be nice, but for have a clean ducking effect one would need to use a kick only track to trigger the sidechain (this way we lose one deck for only a kick track) - the ability to put a kick loop on a sampler and then sidechaining from there would be interesting.. when sidechaining from a full track with lots of elements the sidechaining effect would be all over the place, as all the sounds could/would trigger the sidechain.

[Swiftb0y]

real sidechain will be much more difficult though code-wise. just fyi.

[Swiftb0y]

I think its important to remember that mixxx is not a DAW but a realtime DJ programm. Sometimes simplicity trumps power when it comes to easy of use and especially how quickly it can be used. I don't think its super realistic to expect the user to design or even tweak the ducking curve during their set.

[fwcd]

Yes and no, I've got to admit that I find the possibilities that are opening up with Mixxx getting more and more DAW-style features quite intriguing. In this specific case, maybe the user wouldn't want to tweak the curve live, but might already have a few good presets. Essentially it would improve the ability to "remix" tracks on-the-fly and as long as we don't burden regular users with these features, having more stuff under the hood for power users is always nice.

Personally I think these things are good candidates for plugins and prioritizing plugin integrations is likely easier than integrating these effects (along with GUIs) natively, but in the long-term I don't see any harm with adding more specific enveloping tools too.

[dmt-hub]

Even a basic (kick)ducking envelope (non tweakable) would be a nice addition and def very useable for a regular dj to duck the kick in tracks. I noticed Djay Pro has this effect available too, and its great to have.. But i prefer using Mixxx 🗡️