diff --git a/src/components/LeftSidebar/LeftSidebar.vue b/src/components/LeftSidebar/LeftSidebar.vue
index 91cd9070ae1..08631b2d814 100644
--- a/src/components/LeftSidebar/LeftSidebar.vue
+++ b/src/components/LeftSidebar/LeftSidebar.vue
@@ -220,12 +220,15 @@
 						</NcButton>
 					</template>
 				</NcEmptyContent>
-				<ul v-if="supportThreads && showThreadsList" class="threads-tab__list">
-					<ThreadItem
-						v-for="thread of followedThreads"
-						:key="`thread_${thread.thread.id}`"
-						:thread="thread" />
-				</ul>
+				<template v-if="showThreadsList">
+					<LoadingPlaceholder v-if="!followedThreadsInitialised" type="conversations" />
+					<ul v-else class="threads-tab__list">
+						<ThreadItem
+							v-for="thread of followedThreads"
+							:key="`thread_${thread.thread.id}`"
+							:thread="thread" />
+					</ul>
+				</template>
 				<ConversationsListVirtual
 					v-else
 					v-show="filteredConversationsList.length > 0"
@@ -324,6 +327,7 @@ import IconPhoneOutline from 'vue-material-design-icons/PhoneOutline.vue'
 import IconPlus from 'vue-material-design-icons/Plus.vue'
 import NewConversationDialog from '../NewConversationDialog/NewConversationDialog.vue'
 import ThreadItem from '../RightSidebar/Threads/ThreadItem.vue'
+import LoadingPlaceholder from '../UIShared/LoadingPlaceholder.vue'
 import SearchBox from '../UIShared/SearchBox.vue'
 import TransitionWrapper from '../UIShared/TransitionWrapper.vue'
 import CallPhoneDialog from './CallPhoneDialog/CallPhoneDialog.vue'
@@ -378,6 +382,7 @@ export default {
 	name: 'LeftSidebar',
 
 	components: {
+		LoadingPlaceholder,
 		ThreadItem,
 		CallPhoneDialog,
 		InvitationHandler,
@@ -544,7 +549,11 @@ export default {
 		},
 
 		followedThreads() {
-			return this.chatExtrasStore.getSubscribedThreadsList
+			return this.chatExtrasStore.getFollowedThreadsList
+		},
+
+		followedThreadsInitialised() {
+			return this.chatExtrasStore.followedThreadsInitialised
 		},
 
 		isSearching() {
@@ -575,7 +584,7 @@ export default {
 
 		showEmptyContent() {
 			return (this.conversationsInitialised && !this.filteredConversationsList.length)
-				|| (this.showThreadsList && !this.followedThreads.length)
+				|| (this.showThreadsList && this.followedThreadsInitialised && !this.followedThreads.length)
 		},
 	},
 
@@ -590,7 +599,7 @@ export default {
 			if (value) {
 				// Refresh a list
 				// FIXME requests should be paginated with offset
-				this.chatExtrasStore.fetchSubscribedThreadsList()
+				this.chatExtrasStore.fetchFollowedThreadsList()
 			}
 		},
 	},
diff --git a/src/stores/chatExtras.ts b/src/stores/chatExtras.ts
index 89ccdceb9c7..2ae3955be7e 100644
--- a/src/stores/chatExtras.ts
+++ b/src/stores/chatExtras.ts
@@ -24,7 +24,8 @@ import { parseMentions, parseSpecialSymbols } from '../utils/textParse.ts'
 
 type State = {
 	threads: Record<string, Record<number, ThreadInfo>>
-	subscribedThreads: Set<number>
+	followedThreads: Set<number>
+	followedThreadsInitialised: boolean
 	threadTitle: Record<string, string>
 	parentToReply: Record<string, number>
 	chatInput: Record<string, string>
@@ -41,7 +42,8 @@ type State = {
 export const useChatExtrasStore = defineStore('chatExtras', {
 	state: (): State => ({
 		threads: {},
-		subscribedThreads: new Set(),
+		followedThreads: new Set(),
+		followedThreadsInitialised: false,
 		threadTitle: {},
 		parentToReply: {},
 		chatInput: {},
@@ -67,10 +69,14 @@ export const useChatExtrasStore = defineStore('chatExtras', {
 			}
 		},
 
-		getSubscribedThreadsList: (state): ThreadInfo[] => {
+		getFollowedThreadsList: (state): ThreadInfo[] => {
+			if (!state.followedThreadsInitialised) {
+				return []
+			}
+
 			return Object.keys(state.threads)
 				.flatMap((token) => Object.values(state.threads[token] ?? {}))
-				.filter((threadInfo) => state.subscribedThreads.has(threadInfo.thread.id))
+				.filter((threadInfo) => state.followedThreads.has(threadInfo.thread.id))
 				.sort((a, b) => b.thread.lastActivity - a.thread.lastActivity)
 		},
 
@@ -157,13 +163,14 @@ export const useChatExtrasStore = defineStore('chatExtras', {
 		 *
 		 * @param offset thread offset to start fetch with
 		 */
-		async fetchSubscribedThreadsList(offset?: number) {
+		async fetchFollowedThreadsList(offset?: number) {
 			try {
 				const response = await getSubscribedThreads({ offset })
 				response.data.ocs.data.forEach((threadInfo) => {
-					this.subscribedThreads.add(threadInfo.thread.id)
+					this.followedThreads.add(threadInfo.thread.id)
 					this.addThread(threadInfo.thread.roomToken, threadInfo)
 				})
+				this.followedThreadsInitialised = true
 			} catch (error) {
 				console.error('Error fetching threads:', error)
 			}