CaskaydiaCove Version 3 - Behavior In SSMS And Conhost

[mattcargile]

After installing, v3 for CaskaydiaCove, I noticed that

(New-Object System.Drawing.Text.InstalledFontCollection).Families | sls cask

did not return the same thing as

Add-Type -AssemblyName PresentationCore
[Windows.Media.Fonts]::SystemFontFamilies | ? source -like caskay* | ft

Programs like SQL Server Management Studio, which don't allow you to pick a font name like VSCode or the like, did not like the new v3 CascadiaCode and would seemingly fail to use the font. SSMS's font wouldn't change immediately like the other fonts like Meslo or Terminus.

Here is the image from SSMS.

Here is the image from Windows Settings.

All this to say, is there something wrong with my install or maybe CascadiaCode nerd fonts in general? Or some other incompatibility with certain Windows applications?

NOTE

I was using choco for the uninstall/install.

[Finii]

Sorry to hear of your problems.

I have to admit my Windows skills are somewhat dated.

To understand your report I tried to at least partially reproduce.
This already fails because I seemingly have no System.Drawing.Text installed? That is some .NET stuff?

New-Object : Cannot find type [System.Drawing.Text.InstalledFontCollection]: verify that the assembly containing this
type is loaded.

Whatever. Then the first image of SSMS's font pulldown (it seems). What do I see there? Probably bold font names are fonts that are really monospaced. So far so good.

In the second image you show one of the installed fonts. You marked the FamilyName and the FullName, for ... some reason?

All this to say, is there something wrong with my install or maybe CascadiaCode nerd fonts in general?

Both is possible - if the problem is with the font we should fix it with 3.0.1 ;-)

I was using choco for the uninstall/install.

Maybe you can point me to / explain how to use/do that. I know Chocolatey in general but never used it.
What I know is that sometimes fonts seems to be hard on Windows (this does not say it's better on other platforms). Although I personally have never ever had a problem with updating fonts, some people seem to need 'more'. What I suggest in problematic cases is to remove the font (all instances) (check with the fonts settings), reboot, and only then install the new font.

BTW, I believe CaskaydiaCove did not (!) change much from v2.3.3 to v3.0.0 because most of the new features where already then active for (just) CaskaydiaCove - as testbed.

To be able to 'really' reproduce, is this SSMS thing 'free', and if so, where do I get it?

I must admit I still do not really get you problem, there is no simple 'problem statement' ;-)

[Finii]

There was a bug in the patcher that made the v3.0.0 fonts less 'monospaced', which might be problematic for some applications that require strict strict monospaced fonts: #1198 #1199. But that affects all fonts and not just Caskaydia.

[Finii]

The names of the 'standard' Caskaydia:

$ fontforge bin/scripts/name_parser/query_names patched-fonts/CascadiaCode/**/CaskaydiaCoveNerdFont-*.ttf 2>/dev/null
Examining 12 font files
| Filename                                          |  | PS Name                                                         |  | Fullname                                                        |  | Family                                                 |  | Subfamily                     |  | Typogr. Family                          |  | Typogr. Subfamily                       |  |
|---------------------------------------------------|--|-----------------------------------------------------------------|--|-----------------------------------------------------------------|--|--------------------------------------------------------|--|-------------------------------|--|-----------------------------------------|--|-----------------------------------------|--|
| CaskaydiaCoveNerdFont-BoldItalic.ttf              |36| CaskaydiaCoveNF-BoldItalic                                      |26| CaskaydiaCove NF Bold Italic                                    |28| CaskaydiaCove NF                                       |16| Bold Italic                   |11| CaskaydiaCove Nerd Font                 |23|                                         | 0|
| CaskaydiaCoveNerdFont-Bold.ttf                    |30| CaskaydiaCoveNF-Bold                                            |20| CaskaydiaCove NF Bold                                           |21| CaskaydiaCove NF                                       |16| Bold                          | 4| CaskaydiaCove Nerd Font                 |23|                                         | 0|
| CaskaydiaCoveNerdFont-ExtraLightItalic.ttf        |42| CaskaydiaCoveNF-ExtraLightItalic                                |32| CaskaydiaCove NF ExtraLight Italic                              |34| CaskaydiaCove NF ExtraLight                            |27| Italic                        | 6| CaskaydiaCove Nerd Font                 |23| ExtraLight Italic                       |17|
| CaskaydiaCoveNerdFont-ExtraLight.ttf              |36| CaskaydiaCoveNF-ExtraLight                                      |26| CaskaydiaCove NF ExtraLight                                     |27| CaskaydiaCove NF ExtraLight                            |27| Regular                       | 7| CaskaydiaCove Nerd Font                 |23| ExtraLight                              |10|
| CaskaydiaCoveNerdFont-LightItalic.ttf             |37| CaskaydiaCoveNF-LightItalic                                     |27| CaskaydiaCove NF Light Italic                                   |29| CaskaydiaCove NF Light                                 |22| Italic                        | 6| CaskaydiaCove Nerd Font                 |23| Light Italic                            |12|
| CaskaydiaCoveNerdFont-Light.ttf                   |31| CaskaydiaCoveNF-Light                                           |21| CaskaydiaCove NF Light                                          |22| CaskaydiaCove NF Light                                 |22| Regular                       | 7| CaskaydiaCove Nerd Font                 |23| Light                                   | 5|
| CaskaydiaCoveNerdFont-Italic.ttf                  |32| CaskaydiaCoveNF-Italic                                          |22| CaskaydiaCove NF Italic                                         |23| CaskaydiaCove NF                                       |16| Italic                        | 6| CaskaydiaCove Nerd Font                 |23|                                         | 0|
| CaskaydiaCoveNerdFont-Regular.ttf                 |33| CaskaydiaCoveNF-Regular                                         |23| CaskaydiaCove NF Regular                                        |24| CaskaydiaCove NF                                       |16| Regular                       | 7| CaskaydiaCove Nerd Font                 |23|                                         | 0|
| CaskaydiaCoveNerdFont-SemiBoldItalic.ttf          |40| CaskaydiaCoveNF-SemiBoldItalic                                  |30| CaskaydiaCove NF SemiBold Italic                                |32| CaskaydiaCove NF SemiBold                              |25| Italic                        | 6| CaskaydiaCove Nerd Font                 |23| SemiBold Italic                         |15|
| CaskaydiaCoveNerdFont-SemiBold.ttf                |34| CaskaydiaCoveNF-SemiBold                                        |24| CaskaydiaCove NF SemiBold                                       |25| CaskaydiaCove NF SemiBold                              |25| Regular                       | 7| CaskaydiaCove Nerd Font                 |23| SemiBold                                | 8|
| CaskaydiaCoveNerdFont-SemiLightItalic.ttf         |41| CaskaydiaCoveNF-SemiLightItalic                                 |31| CaskaydiaCove NF SemiLight Italic                               |33| CaskaydiaCove NF SemiLight                             |26| Italic                        | 6| CaskaydiaCove Nerd Font                 |23| SemiLight Italic                        |16|
| CaskaydiaCoveNerdFont-SemiLight.ttf               |35| CaskaydiaCoveNF-SemiLight                                       |25| CaskaydiaCove NF SemiLight                                      |26| CaskaydiaCove NF SemiLight                             |26| Regular                       | 7| CaskaydiaCove Nerd Font                 |23| SemiLight                               | 9|

Compare with the names from v2.3.3 which are obviously broken (shown: Windows Compatible font) (note truncated names and too long names):

$ fontforge bin/scripts/name_parser/query_names ~/Downloads/Caskaydia233/Caskaydia\ Cove\ Nerd\ Font\ Complete\ Windows\ Compatible\ * 2>/dev/null
Examining 12 font files
| Filename                                          |  | PS Name                                                         |  | Fullname                                                        |  | Family                                                 |  | Subfamily                     |  | Typogr. Family                          |  | Typogr. Subfamily                       |  |
|---------------------------------------------------|--|-----------------------------------------------------------------|--|-----------------------------------------------------------------|--|--------------------------------------------------------|--|-------------------------------|--|-----------------------------------------|--|-----------------------------------------|--|
| Caskaydia Cove Nerd Font Complete Windows Compatib|68| CaskaydiaCoveNerdFon-BoldItalic                                 |31| Caskaydia Cove Nerd Font Complete Windows Compatible Bold Italic|64| CaskaydiaCove NF                                       |16| Bold Italic                   |11|                                         |  |                                         |  |
| Caskaydia Cove Nerd Font Complete Windows Compatib|61| CaskaydiaCoveNerdFontCompl-Bold                                 |31| Caskaydia Cove Nerd Font Complete Windows Compatible Bold       |57| CaskaydiaCove NF                                       |16| Bold                          | 4|                                         |  |                                         |  |
| Caskaydia Cove Nerd Font Complete Windows Compatib|74| CaskaydiaCoveN-ExtraLightItalic                                 |31| Caskaydia Cove Nerd Font Complete Windows Compatible ExtraLight |70| CaskaydiaCove NF ExtraLight                            |27| Italic                        | 6| CaskaydiaCove NF                        |16| ExtraLight Italic                       |17|
| Caskaydia Cove Nerd Font Complete Windows Compatib|67| CaskaydiaCoveNerdFon-ExtraLight                                 |31| Caskaydia Cove Nerd Font Complete Windows Compatible ExtraLight |63| CaskaydiaCove NF ExtraLight                            |27| Regular                       | 7| CaskaydiaCove NF                        |16| ExtraLight                              |10|
| Caskaydia Cove Nerd Font Complete Windows Compatib|63| CaskaydiaCoveNerdFontCom-Italic                                 |31| Caskaydia Cove Nerd Font Complete Windows Compatible Italic     |59| CaskaydiaCove NF                                       |16| Italic                        | 6|                                         |  |                                         |  |
| Caskaydia Cove Nerd Font Complete Windows Compatib|69| CaskaydiaCoveNerdFo-LightItalic                                 |31| Caskaydia Cove Nerd Font Complete Windows Compatible Light Itali|65| CaskaydiaCove NF Light                                 |22| Italic                        | 6| CaskaydiaCove NF                        |16| Light Italic                            |12|
| Caskaydia Cove Nerd Font Complete Windows Compatib|62| CaskaydiaCoveNerdFontComp-Light                                 |31| Caskaydia Cove Nerd Font Complete Windows Compatible Light      |58| CaskaydiaCove NF Light                                 |22| Regular                       | 7| CaskaydiaCove NF                        |16| Light                                   | 5|
| Caskaydia Cove Nerd Font Complete Windows Compatib|64| CaskaydiaCoveNerdFontCo-Regular                                 |31| Caskaydia Cove Nerd Font Complete Windows Compatible Regular    |60| CaskaydiaCove NF                                       |16| Regular                       | 7|                                         |  |                                         |  |
| Caskaydia Cove Nerd Font Complete Windows Compatib|72| CaskaydiaCoveNer-SemiBoldItalic                                 |31| Caskaydia Cove Nerd Font Complete Windows Compatible SemiBold It|68| CaskaydiaCove NF SemiBold                              |25| Italic                        | 6| CaskaydiaCove NF                        |16| SemiBold Italic                         |15|
| Caskaydia Cove Nerd Font Complete Windows Compatib|65| CaskaydiaCoveNerdFontC-SemiBold                                 |31| Caskaydia Cove Nerd Font Complete Windows Compatible SemiBold   |61| CaskaydiaCove NF SemiBold                              |25| Regular                       | 7| CaskaydiaCove NF                        |16| SemiBold                                | 8|
| Caskaydia Cove Nerd Font Complete Windows Compatib|73| CaskaydiaCoveNe-SemiLightItalic                                 |31| Caskaydia Cove Nerd Font Complete Windows Compatible SemiLight I|69| CaskaydiaCove NF SemiLight                             |26| Italic                        | 6| CaskaydiaCove NF                        |16| SemiLight Italic                        |16|
| Caskaydia Cove Nerd Font Complete Windows Compatib|66| CaskaydiaCoveNerdFont-SemiLight                                 |31| Caskaydia Cove Nerd Font Complete Windows Compatible SemiLight  |62| CaskaydiaCove NF SemiLight                             |26| Regular                       | 7| CaskaydiaCove NF                        |16| SemiLight                               | 9|

Only real change is the TypoFamily that utilizes now more of the possible string length:

[mattcargile]

Thanks so much for looking into it. The basic problem statement is the CaskaydiaCove font v3 didn't work in SSMS or, I think, conhost.exe too which is the older "terminal" host for powershell.exe or cmd.exe.

Wouldn't we expect to see CaskaydiaCove Nerd Font in all the pickers inside Windows instead of CaskaydiaCove NF? I believe applications like SSMS display the Family while applications like VSCode allow you to specify the TypoGr. Family. So maybe that explains why we see a difference.

v2.3.3 works well inside SQL Server Management Studio ( which is a free application on Windows ). On v3, no matter what I tried and how many uninstalls and reboots I did I couldn't get it to work. I even had to manually delete files out of C:\Windows\fonts. I even installed the newer version of SSMS , version 19.

Does Meslo have the same naming "scheme" for Family versus Typogr. Family?

Here is the list of fonts for v2.3.3 inside SQL Server Management Studio. It actually has CaskaydiaCove Nerd Font inside the list.

[mattcargile]

Issue is being tracked below.

#1242