Added Yes and

[jmasonlee]

This is separate from summaries

Co-author Tony Vo [email protected]

[JayBazuzi]

It sounds like this is always a good idea.

I think best practices go somewhere else. The mobbing pattern languages is things that are not universally recommended. They are useful in a context.

What do you think?

[jmasonlee]

The only time I can think of where you might not want to use this is in a situation where someone is about to make a very unsafe choice. Even then, you'd probably want to be careful to use a variation on this... @tonytvo?

[tonytvo]

in short, when there's disagreement, or you know it's an unsafe choice, you should still try to start with yes, and.... and instead of adding on top of the idea, you would raise the concerns with the idea. The idea here, we kind of want to avoid saying a negative word like but, however, etc... it's a way to say I see your point, and here are my concerns.
It's a way to build empathy, trust and avoid getting the listener defensive.

I don't think it's universally a good idea, mainly because sometimes, people would prefer a straight answer (like a long-time colleague, or someone like a straight answer, etc...)

Furthermore, I would be wary of best practices because very often, there's no best way to do anything and most of the time best practices of a certain group is the worst practices of different group
For me, I mainly focus on documenting the things that repeat often and try to describe the trade-off as much as I can.

[JayBazuzi]

This is a good, useful idea but I'm not sure it belongs in the pattern language.

I have noticed that different mobs behave different ways, adapting to the local context. A small mob vs. a big mob, or a new mob vs. an experienced one. In the pattern language I am trying to describe a bunch of options that a coach might draw on.

"Yes, and" seems more like "a good idea" than something context-specific.

What do you think?