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Update "Lutris (Wine)" with more recent info #169

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The wiki mentions Origin which (afaict) is now deprecated by EA. Also, the EA App's overlay causes Northstar to hang, which isn't mentioned in the wiki.

If you want, I can also modify the article to mention this lutris script https://github.com/begin-theadventure/lutris-scripts/tree/main/lutris-scripts/Northstar/EA%20App, although I didn't need it for setting up Northstar.

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itscynxx commented May 1, 2023

If you want, I can also modify the article to mention this lutris script https://github.com/begin-theadventure/lutris-scripts/tree/main/lutris-scripts/Northstar/EA%20App, although I didn't need it for setting up Northstar.

I would personally do this, I've been meaning to but never have. I think having the scripts easily accessible on the wiki page is better than the majority of Lutris users that need this script and have to ask in the discord for someone to send the tag for it

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I've got some minor grammatical nitpicks but apart from that and preferably adding the Lutris script to the wiki, looks good

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I would not fully remove mentions of Origin but simply mention both. The reason being that I still see a bunch of people using Origin with Lutris.

Clearly Origin is on the way out and there's no reason to keep clinging to it but I'd still keep it as a footnote at the very least ^^

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Done for now. Should I keep the mention of the official Lutris script or do I remove it?

Update docs/steamdeck-and-linux/installing-on-steamdeck-and-linux.md

Co-authored-by: Cyn <[email protected]>

Update docs/steamdeck-and-linux/installing-on-steamdeck-and-linux.md

Co-authored-by: Cyn <[email protected]>
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Done for now. Should I keep the mention of the official Lutris script or do I remove it?

You mean this one? https://lutris.net/games/titanfall-2/
Honestly no idea how well it works as I've never used Lutris. Maybe @CooldudePUGS or @stygia-dev can chime in on that ;)

Also as a sidenote, please don't force push. We squash merge branches anyway, so any "fixup" or "revert" commits will be cleaned away on merge. Force pushing makes it more difficult for a reviewer like me to see what the changes were ^^"

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itscynxx commented May 4, 2023

You mean this one? https://lutris.net/games/titanfall-2/

No this is for vanilla and doesn't usually work for people for Northstar (from what I see from helping at least)
The issue is im not entirely sure how the NS script works. I didn't think it installed the game again and instead just installed Northstar but I honestly don't know. Would be 5 hours before I could test, and asking the creator makes it seem like it reinstalls but im not entirely sure

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Done for now. Should I keep the mention of the official Lutris script or do I remove it?

Remove it. If we're going to fully support Lutris going forward as an alternative to Proton, we should be suggesting begin-theadventure's script, so long as it actually installs Titanfall2 with it.

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Added the typo fix and removed the official script. Tbh I haven't tested begin-theadventure's script, but it pretty much does the same thing as the official one except it adds a dll override for wsock32 and removes ActivationUI.exe from ExcludeProcesses

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@CooldudePUGS @stygia-dev if any of you says this looks good after changes, I'm happy to merge ^^

1. For manual install, download the latest version of Northstar from the [releases](https://github.com/R2Northstar/Northstar/releases) page
2. Then extract all contents of the file to your Titanfall 2 folder ( Right click _Titanfall 2_ > Click _Browse files_ )
3. Add `-northstar` as a [launch option](../installing-northstar/troubleshooting.md#launch-opts) to Titanfall2
4. Disable in-game overlay: In EA App, click on the hamburger menu on the top left > Click _Settings_ > Click _Application_ > Toggle _in-game overlay_ to OFF. In Origin, it's not necessary to turn off overlay, but doing so improves performance.
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4. Disable in-game overlay: In EA App, click on the hamburger menu on the top left > Click _Settings_ > Click _Application_ > Toggle _in-game overlay_ to OFF. In Origin, it's not necessary to turn off overlay, but doing so improves performance.
4. Disable in-game overlay: In EA App, click on the hamburger menu on the top left > Click _Settings_ > Click _Application_ > Toggle _in-game overlay_ to OFF.

we shouldn't be mentioning Origin anymore.

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I added the mentions to Origin because Gecko mentioned it earlier.

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Yup, I'd keep it as we still have a bunch of people using it...

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Origin is deprecated, and we should treat it as such and stop mentioning it, keeping it alive will just cause more issues in the long run.

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I don't fully disagree but the reality is that right now (especially on Linux) we still have a bunch of people using it. Removing Origin from the wiki should be done in separate PR IMO


Now just launch the game through Lutris and you should be greeted with a Northstar welcome message upon entering the main menu.
Now just launch the EA App/Origin through Lutris, open the game and you should be greeted with a Northstar welcome message upon entering the main menu.
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Now just launch the EA App/Origin through Lutris, open the game and you should be greeted with a Northstar welcome message upon entering the main menu.
Now just launch the EA App through Lutris, open the game and you should be greeted with a Northstar welcome message upon entering the main menu.

no Origin nonsense


> **Note:** Origin might prompt you to log in and "set an installation folder for future downloads" on first launch. Just do those, close Origin, then launch the game again.
> **Note:** If using Origin, it might prompt you to log in and "set an installation folder for future downloads" on first launch. Just do those, close Origin, then launch the game again.
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> **Note:** If using Origin, it might prompt you to log in and "set an installation folder for future downloads" on first launch. Just do those, close Origin, then launch the game again.

Origin begone

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So do I apply stygia's suggestions or do I leave it as is?

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So do I apply stygia's suggestions or do I leave it as is?

I would leave as is (sadly)
People still love to cling to Origin for whatever reason and keeping it mentioned removes the small chance it confuses someone still using Origin


Now just launch the game through Lutris and you should be greeted with a Northstar welcome message upon entering the main menu.
Now just launch the EA App/Origin through Lutris, open the game and you should be greeted with a Northstar welcome message upon entering the main menu.
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Now just launch the EA App/Origin through Lutris, open the game and you should be greeted with a Northstar welcome message upon entering the main menu.
Now just launch EA App/Origin through Lutris, open the game and you should be greeted with a Northstar welcome message upon entering the main menu.

We should probably get to one decided way to refer to the EA App. Earlier in the page, its referred to as just EA App without saying The EA App. The troubleshooting page is also guilty of this issue but it should be changed to be one way, starting here preferably while there's already an open pr for a page with the issue

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As far as I know, Origin is pretty much dead and can't be used. However I made a somewhat duplicate pull request on #194

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As far as I know, Origin is pretty much dead and can't be used. However I made a somewhat duplicate pull request on #194

There are workarounds to make Origin continue working (annoyingly enough).

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Uh, what's the state on this?

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