Fix booting from cd while hda present, booting from hda while cd present #901

JoeOsborn · 2023-08-18T19:52:31Z

This is towards #900: We can now boot either from HDA or CDROM, with the other present, and it boots successfully. For testing I'm booting into Windows 3.0 (from CD) with Windows 3.1 on hda or from Windows 3.1 (on hda) with Windows 3.0 in the cdrom.

One big change here: The cd-rom device is now always present, either at ide0 or ide1 depending on whether hda/hdb are present. Of course we can still boot (at least into Windows) if you only have hda and an empty cdrom, or don't have hda and just have a cdrom.

JoeOsborn · 2023-08-18T21:09:45Z

The Bochs BIOS does not like the empty cd-rom drive. I'll investigate how it should properly report being empty. If I keep the "empty drive" status register readout to 0, seaBIOS ignores the drive but bochs BIOS hangs.

JoeOsborn · 2023-08-18T22:09:37Z

It looks like the ata command sending code in bochs doesn’t like how our buffer-less cdrom drive is reporting its state register, so it waits forever before sending the IDENTIFY PACKET DEVICE ATA command. I’ll investigate what’s going on Monday or Tuesday but my suspicion is that the current approach of hard coding one value to send for empty drives is not going work.

Rough summary: bochs checks for the status to be not-busy, then sends a command and waits for the device to be not-busy and yes-drq.

JoeOsborn · 2023-08-19T00:04:20Z

Sorry for the spam. I think the path of least resistance here is to add a setting for “wants_cdrom” which defaults to true if cdrom is non-null, and a cdrom device should only be created if cdrom is defined or wants_cdrom is true. The bochs empty cdrom boot behavior really should be a separate PR aimed at #900 .

JoeOsborn · 2023-08-19T00:27:28Z

Whoops, and I’ll revert my changes to the html files and main.js.

JoeOsborn · 2023-08-19T22:13:11Z

I’ve trimmed down the changes made by this commit (I left the changes to logging because they’re actually pretty useful) to just changing the BAR4 location for each IDE device and not asserting on a spurious dma control write that occurs before a dma start command arrives (this is something some OSes or maybe seabios seem to do but it doesn’t seem to cause any harm to allow it, I guess they’ll try to trigger it again after it doesn’t do anything the first time—I wonder if a better fix would be for the start dma commands to start the dma transfer immediately if the control start bit was set already). I’ll do some more testing locally (I figured out how to run the integration tests locally and added test machines with both hda and cdrom and booting from one or the other) and I’ll push a commit over the next day or two.

JoeOsborn · 2023-08-20T14:18:48Z

The main changes necessary to make this work were, in the end:

Change the debug assert to an error condition in the "spurious DMA write" case
Change the BAR4 address for each IDE controller.

The wants_cdrom change is not strictly necessary here but will be important for my next PR which will support empty CD-ROMs, so please consider rolling it in to this.

JoeOsborn · 2023-08-21T20:19:19Z

I've gone ahead and added tests for booting with wants_cd true when Bochs bios is active (and inactive) and with varying permutations of hda, fda, and boot order in FreeDOS. It now boots successfully with an empty CD-ROM in both BIOSes.

The problem is that Bochs was enumerating the slave device of every IDE device, but the slave device was seemingly never fully implemented (?)---so instead I have dummied out writes to slave devices when the slave buffer is null.

JoeOsborn · 2023-08-22T18:48:01Z

With these changes, CDs are also readable by at least FreeDOS 13 with the UDVD2 driver. They don’t seem to be readable in win95. I’m going to see if I can implement inserting and ejecting disks later this week.

JoeOsborn · 2023-09-01T17:19:01Z

I've rebased this branch on latest master and removed unnecessary changes. eject is still in progress, but insert seems to work (I can boot FreeDOS 1.3 with an empty CD-ROM, see dir D: fail, insert a CD-ROM, and see dir D: succeed).

… disk image is present

…h floppy eject insert

load_image takes an image file descriptor (like you'd find in a V86 option like `hda` or `cdrom`) and returns a Promise which will resolve with a full image description (including a `buffer` field which is a buffer type from buffer.js). This currently duplicates a bunch of logic from starter's `continue_init` function, but I hope in the future that could be refactored out. The main sticking point is progress reporting, which would need to do something like add up the total sizes across all images and increment a counter as new bytes come in, but I wanted to keep this commit focused.

Note that the progress indicator won't show the correct total number of files anymore. This should be fixed in the future by loading files in parallel and counting progress against the overall total number of bytes rather than the number of bytes in the current file.

copy · 2023-09-01T17:45:34Z

@JoeOsborn Thanks! I will try to look into this in the coming days.

JoeOsborn · 2023-09-01T19:12:34Z

I see my api-test is hanging, it was tricky to get the timing of abort/retry/fail and inserting the CD right. It works on my machine but I’m open to advice on getting it working in CI.

JoeOsborn · 2023-09-01T19:14:06Z

Sorry @copy , I don’t want to use up your CI credits or whatever, but I don’t know how to kill the actions jobs from my end.

JoeOsborn · 2023-09-01T19:37:02Z

After more testing, I see that ejecting a CD-ROM and inserting a new one also seems to work.

copy · 2023-09-02T18:44:09Z

This causes some problems on Linux:

There are some 0-bytes drives:

[   32.946240] sd 1:0:1:0: [sdc] 0 512-byte logical blocks: (0 B/0 B)           
[   32.946845] sd 1:0:1:0: [sdc] Write Protect is off                           
[   32.951335] sd 1:0:1:0: Attached scsi generic sg3 type 0                     
[   32.956020] sd 1:0:1:0: [sdc] Write cache: disabled, read cache: enabled, doe
sn't support DPO or FUA                                                         
[   32.970920] sd 1:0:1:0: [sdc] Attached SCSI disk

There are some timeouts, e.g. running fdisk /dev/sr0:

[  176.750270] ata2: lost interrupt (Status 0x58)
[  176.750920] ata2: drained 32 bytes to clear DRQ
[  176.751025] ata2.00: limiting speed to MWDMA1:PIO2
[  176.751340] ata2.00: exception Emask 0x0 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x0 action 0x6 frozen
[  176.751910] ata2.00: cmd a0/01:00:00:20:00/00:00:00:00:00/a0 tag 0 dma 16416 in
[  176.751910]          Get configuration 46 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 20 00res 40/00:02:00:0c:00/00:00:00:00:00/a0 Emask 0x4 (timeout)
[  176.752900] ata2.00: status: { DRDY }
[  176.753640] ata2: soft resetting link
[  176.914875] ata2.00: configured for MWDMA1
[  176.915840] ata2.01: configured for MWDMA2
[  176.916755] ata2: EH complete
[  184.750285] ata2: lost interrupt (Status 0x58)
[  184.751185] ata2: drained 16 bytes to clear DRQ
[  184.751285] ata2.00: limiting speed to PIO2
[  184.751640] ata2.00: exception Emask 0x0 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x0 action 0x6 frozen
[  184.752215] ata2.00: cmd a0/01:00:00:10:00/00:00:00:00:00/a0 tag 0 dma 16400 in
[  184.752215]          Get configuration 46 00 00 28 00 00 00 00 10 00res 40/00:02:00:0c:00/00:00:00:00:00/a0 Emask 0x4 (timeout)
[  184.753650] ata2.00: status: { DRDY }
[  184.755615] ata2: soft resetting link
[  184.914770] ata2.00: configured for PIO2
[  184.915615] ata2.01: configured for MWDMA2
[  184.916485] ata2: EH complete

You should be able to reproduce with tinycore (it can be used both as cdrom and hard drive disk).

copy · 2023-09-02T18:24:32Z

src/browser/main.js

@@ -1369,6 +1372,7 @@
            "hda": settings.hda,
            "hdb": settings.hdb,
            "cdrom": settings.cdrom,
+            "wants_cdrom": settings.wants_cdrom,


I think cdrom: { ejected: true } would be a clearer api for this.

I’m happy to defer to you here, I’ll make that change.

I think cdrom: { ejected: true } makes sense for the starter options, but it's a bit tricky inside of cpu and so on if the settings object is either a buffer or null or {ejected: true}. Should there be a new EmptyBuffer buffer type? Or can wants_cdrom continue to exist within the emulator settings, even if it's not part of public API?

Yes, internally wants_cdrom is fine (it can be refactored at any point anyway)

copy · 2023-09-02T18:25:40Z

index.html

+                <td>
+                    <input id="wants_cdrom" type="checkbox"><br>
+                </td>
+            </tr>


Could you revert this for now? It's confusingly named, can cause problems with the state saving mechanism, and I'd like to eventually redo the UI anyway.

JoeOsborn · 2023-09-03T16:27:29Z

To clarify on the linux issues, is this the set of test cases you’re using?

Boot from tinycore as hda, insert tinycore cd, mount it
Boot from tinycore as hda with some cd image, run fdisk on the cd? This one’s a bit confusing to me, is it just that the error condition isn’t being handled properly? Or should something like CD-R support be implemented?

copy · 2023-09-03T19:34:32Z

@JoeOsborn Sorry, here is a better reproduction:

Boot with linux4.iso as cdrom and tinycore (or anything else) as hard drive, set boot order to CD first. fdisk /dev/sr0 hangs, but I believe the same hang also happens during boot on tinycore. It looks like an interrupt missing somewhere.

JoeOsborn · 2023-09-06T18:53:56Z

Something I’m finding confusing here is that linux seems to be configuring the drive to use DMA even though the capabilities reported are lba-only.

I think maybe the OS is waiting for some status flag to be set or something, or else it’s ignoring irqs that come in too soon after the command is sent, since liberally adding irqs didn’t seem to help. Any tips for triggering an IRQ after some delay?

copy · 2023-09-06T23:40:32Z

Any tips for triggering an IRQ after some delay?

You can try setTimeout(() => this.push_irq(), 4) or similar, but in my experience that isn't usually needed and is somewhat of an anti-pattern.

JoeOsborn · 2023-09-14T15:58:10Z

Just posting to say I'm still investigating this, but the beginning of the semester has slowed down my experiments here. Once I've settled into teaching a little more I'll have another chance to get back to it.

ericmackrodt · 2023-12-01T08:08:13Z

Was this work abandoned? I think this is essential for the emulator and I'm working on a project that requires this functionality.
I tried to build the version from this branch but it seems like it's broken. I'm getting the following errors:

Sadly I don't think I have the skills to fix this.

JoeOsborn · 2023-12-01T14:54:19Z

It’s not abandoned, but it is delayed. I likely won’t be able to pick it up until January—it is on my critical path for some preservation work, but other aspects of the project (and my other obligations) have taken the front seat for a while.

ericmackrodt · 2023-12-03T00:11:20Z

That's fair enough, thank you for getting back to me.

FunnyCorgi · 2024-11-22T19:14:21Z

Does anyone know if this is still being actively worked on?

copy · 2024-11-25T00:50:12Z

Does anyone know if this is still being actively worked on?

Probably nobody, but feel free to pick it up.

JoeOsborn mentioned this pull request Aug 18, 2023

CD-ROM insert, eject #900

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JoeOsborn force-pushed the fix-cdrom-hda-boot branch from 48749a8 to 60a2f9d Compare September 1, 2023 17:19

JoeOsborn added 19 commits September 1, 2023 10:22

Fix booting from cd while hda present, booting from hda while cd present

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fix wrong fields in log messages

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revert changes to main, index, debug

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add wants_cdrom config flag to force presence of a cdrom even when no…

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… disk image is present

Expose wants_cdrom flag and fix a docstring.

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fix typo

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Fix hda+cdrom tests and tinycore hang, add a few more

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fixes towards empty cd-rom support for bochs bios

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Fix empty/missing device enumeration for bochs bios

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put back RTC CMOS writes, freedos13 seems to want them

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set proper default sector count for cdrom

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WIP floppy eject/insert; dos does not see re-insert yet

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it seems to work for MSDOS

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remove incorrect format command half-impl

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Add extra_images config setting for V86Starter, extend test cases wit…

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…h floppy eject insert

add semicolon

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fixes towards empty cd-rom support for bochs bios

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JoeOsborn added 7 commits September 1, 2023 10:27

Fix empty/missing device enumeration for bochs bios

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WIP insert/eject

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clean up tests and code after rebase

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tweaks to ordering in initialization

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remove debug output

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add missing file

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roll back main profiles, full-test changes

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QEMU config for Windows 98 that will work with v86? #945

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