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| <p><img src="https://www.w3.org/Icons/w3c_home" alt="W3C Logo" /></p><div><div><div class="container"><div class="row"><div class="col-md-8 col-md-offset-2"><h1>JSON-LD CG</h1> | ||
| <h2>Minutes for 2024-01-10</h2> | ||
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| <dt>Present</dt><dd><a href="http://greggkellogg.net/home/about/">Gregg Kellogg</a>, <a href="https://json-ld.org/">Pierre-Antoine Champin</a>, <a href="http://www.linkedin.com/in/macted">Ted Thibodeau Jr.</a>, <a href="https://json-ld.org/">Kevin Herndon</a>, <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/benjaminyoung/">Benjamin Young</a>, <a href="https://json-ld.org/">Niklas Lindström</a>, <a href="https://json-ld.org/">Anatoly Scherbakov</a>, <a href="http://dil.lehn.org/">David I. Lehn</a></dd> | ||
| <dt>Chair(s)</dt><dd>Gregg Kellogg</dd> | ||
| <dt>Scribe(s)</dt><dd>Gregg Kellogg</dd> | ||
| <dt>Agenda</dt><dd><a href="https://www.w3.org/events/meetings/398465c7-3787-40df-856a-434a438d9f05/20240110T120000/">https://www.w3.org/events/meetings/398465c7-3787-40df-856a-434a438d9f05/20240110T120000/</a></dd> | ||
| <dt>Topics</dt><dd><ol><li><a href="#topic-1">Announcements and Introductions</a><li><a href="#topic-2">YAML-LD</a><li><a href="#topic-3">CBOR-LD</a><li><a href="#topic-4">JSON-LD Issue Discussion</a><li><a href="#topic-5">Open Discussion</a></ol></dd></dl> | ||
| </div> | ||
| <div class="information">Gregg Kellogg is scribing.</div> | ||
| <h1 onmouseout="$('#link-topic-1').hide()" onmouseover="$('#link-topic-1').show()" id="topic-1" class="topic"> | ||
| Topic: Announcements and Introductions | ||
| <a id="link-topic-1" style="display:none;" href="#topic-1">✪</a></h1> | ||
| <div onmouseout="$('#link-1').hide()" onmouseover="$('#link-1').show()" id="1" class="comment"><span class="name">Kevin Herndon</span>: I had an email conversation with gkellogg a couple of years ago about how to get more involved. <a id="link-1" style="display:none;" href="#1">✪</a></div> | ||
| <div class="comment-continuation">... May be too technical for me, but I wanted to find out.</div> | ||
| <div class="comment-continuation">... I come from accounting/finance, but as a hobby, I'm a musician. I put together a website for my music, but started incorporating JSON-LD/schema.org into my website.</div> | ||
| <div class="comment-continuation">... I've left my job, and am looking for something new to get into.</div> | ||
| <div onmouseout="$('#link-2').hide()" onmouseover="$('#link-2').show()" id="2" class="comment"><span class="name">Pierre-Antoine Champin</span>: On Mastadon I anounced that I leased version 0.8 of Sophia with full support for JSON-LD. <a id="link-2" style="display:none;" href="#2">✪</a></div> | ||
| <div class="comment-continuation">... Sophia is a Rust library for RDF.</div> | ||
| <div onmouseout="$('#link-3').hide()" onmouseover="$('#link-3').show()" id="3" class="comment"><span class="name">Pierre-Antoine Champin</span>: <a href="https://crates.io/crates/sophia">https://crates.io/crates/sophia</a> <a id="link-3" style="display:none;" href="#3">✪</a></div> | ||
| <div onmouseout="$('#link-4').hide()" onmouseover="$('#link-4').show()" id="4" class="comment"><span class="name">Anatoly Scherbakov</span>: й+ <a id="link-4" style="display:none;" href="#4">✪</a></div> | ||
| <div onmouseout="$('#link-5').hide()" onmouseover="$('#link-5').show()" id="5" class="comment"><span class="name">Pierre-Antoine Champin</span>: There should be an IE invitation in progress for adding anatoly-scherbakov <a id="link-5" style="display:none;" href="#5">✪</a></div> | ||
| <div onmouseout="$('#link-6').hide()" onmouseover="$('#link-6').show()" id="6" class="comment"><span class="name">Anatoly Scherbakov</span>: I am already an invited expert. <a id="link-6" style="display:none;" href="#6">✪</a></div> | ||
| <div class="comment-continuation">... I hope to bring the YAML-LD spec to Rec.</div> | ||
| <div onmouseout="$('#link-7').hide()" onmouseover="$('#link-7').show()" id="7" class="comment"><span class="name">Niklas Lindström</span>: To be clear, I'm not a member of the WG, because of the DCMI exit, and the National Library of Sweden hasn't done the paperwork for me. This should happen ASAP. <a id="link-7" style="display:none;" href="#7">✪</a></div> | ||
| <div onmouseout="$('#link-8').hide()" onmouseover="$('#link-8').show()" id="8" class="comment"><span class="name">Pierre-Antoine Champin</span>: I wanted to point out about niklasl and kherndon that it's still possible for chairs to invite non-members on a case-by-case basis. <a id="link-8" style="display:none;" href="#8">✪</a></div> | ||
| <div class="comment-continuation">... Particularly if there is some temporary issue.</div> | ||
| <div class="comment-continuation">... Regarding our charter, it talks about YAML and CBOR as non-normative work.</div> | ||
| <div onmouseout="$('#link-9').hide()" onmouseover="$('#link-9').show()" id="9" class="comment"><span class="name">Ted Thibodeau Jr.</span>: The chair can invite anyone, but substantive contributions aren't covered by this. It's helpful to keep up on discussion, but not to make contributions. <a id="link-9" style="display:none;" href="#9">✪</a></div> | ||
| <div onmouseout="$('#link-10').hide()" onmouseover="$('#link-10').show()" id="10" class="comment"><span class="name">Niklas Lindström</span>: That's good to know. <a id="link-10" style="display:none;" href="#10">✪</a></div> | ||
| <h1 onmouseout="$('#link-topic-2').hide()" onmouseover="$('#link-topic-2').show()" id="topic-2" class="topic"> | ||
| Topic: YAML-LD | ||
| <a id="link-topic-2" style="display:none;" href="#topic-2">✪</a></h1> | ||
| <div onmouseout="$('#link-11').hide()" onmouseover="$('#link-11').show()" id="11" class="comment"><span class="name">Gregg Kellogg</span>: Generally, avoid contributing new PRs to work in progress. <a id="link-11" style="display:none;" href="#11">✪</a></div> | ||
| <div onmouseout="$('#link-12').hide()" onmouseover="$('#link-12').show()" id="12" class="comment"><span class="name">Anatoly Scherbakov</span>: I found an issue that the spec doesn't mention, about how we handle YAML-LD embedded in HTML. <a id="link-12" style="display:none;" href="#12">✪</a></div> | ||
| <div class="comment-continuation">... the extractAllScripts tag would likely extract not just the scripts but also all the documents from a stream.</div> | ||
| <div class="comment-continuation">... If I for the repo and do some PRs, will it be merged into the current version of YAML-LD.</div> | ||
| <h1 onmouseout="$('#link-topic-3').hide()" onmouseover="$('#link-topic-3').show()" id="topic-3" class="topic"> | ||
| Topic: CBOR-LD | ||
| <a id="link-topic-3" style="display:none;" href="#topic-3">✪</a></h1> | ||
| <div onmouseout="$('#link-13').hide()" onmouseover="$('#link-13').show()" id="13" class="comment"><span class="name">David I. Lehn</span>: I was supposed to move the spec from the DB repo to the json-ld org. It's hard to keep things working. <a id="link-13" style="display:none;" href="#13">✪</a></div> | ||
| <div onmouseout="$('#link-14').hide()" onmouseover="$('#link-14').show()" id="14" class="comment"><span class="name">Gregg Kellogg</span>: There is some dance to do on this. <a id="link-14" style="display:none;" href="#14">✪</a></div> | ||
| <div onmouseout="$('#link-15').hide()" onmouseover="$('#link-15').show()" id="15" class="comment"><span class="name">David I. Lehn</span>: I'll work on this, but we're working on other related things too. <a id="link-15" style="display:none;" href="#15">✪</a></div> | ||
| <div onmouseout="$('#link-16').hide()" onmouseover="$('#link-16').show()" id="16" class="comment"><span class="name">Gregg Kellogg</span>: We should continue to develop the CBOR-LD spec in the CG. <a id="link-16" style="display:none;" href="#16">✪</a></div> | ||
| <div class="comment-continuation">... I think the CG patent policy allows us to work in the CG.</div> | ||
| <div onmouseout="$('#link-17').hide()" onmouseover="$('#link-17').show()" id="17" class="comment"><span class="name">David I. Lehn</span>: Writing down the issues? We have a CBOR-LD spec and if we're going to try to mix work. <a id="link-17" style="display:none;" href="#17">✪</a></div> | ||
| <div onmouseout="$('#link-18').hide()" onmouseover="$('#link-18').show()" id="18" class="comment"><span class="name">Gregg Kellogg</span>: There are parts from YAML-LD, pchampin's JSON-LD in CBOR and DB's CBOR-LD spec to me mixed together. <a id="link-18" style="display:none;" href="#18">✪</a></div> | ||
| <h1 onmouseout="$('#link-topic-4').hide()" onmouseover="$('#link-topic-4').show()" id="topic-4" class="topic"> | ||
| Topic: JSON-LD Issue Discussion | ||
| <a id="link-topic-4" style="display:none;" href="#topic-4">✪</a></h1> | ||
| <div onmouseout="$('#link-19').hide()" onmouseover="$('#link-19').show()" id="19" class="comment"><span class="name">Niklas Lindström</span>: <a href="https://github.com/w3c/json-ld-api/issues/581">https://github.com/w3c/json-ld-api/issues/581</a> <a id="link-19" style="display:none;" href="#19">✪</a></div> | ||
| <div onmouseout="$('#link-20').hide()" onmouseover="$('#link-20').show()" id="20" class="information"><a href="https://github.com/w3c/json-ld-api/issues/581">https://github.com/w3c/json-ld-api/issues/581</a> -> Issue 581 If processing mode is json-ld-1.0, IRI-like terms should still be allowed to differ from their expanded forms (by niklasl) <a id="link-20" style="display:none;" href="#20">✪</a></div> | ||
| <div onmouseout="$('#link-21').hide()" onmouseover="$('#link-21').show()" id="21" class="comment"><span class="name">Niklas Lindström</span>: A couple of sessions ago we had a discussion on some detail, that I'll need to find. <a id="link-21" style="display:none;" href="#21">✪</a></div> | ||
| <div class="comment-continuation">... I was trying to find out why my test suite failed on something and thought I had missed something in the algorithm, but I found that the algorithm should behave differently if the algorithm is 1.0.</div> | ||
| <div class="comment-continuation">... It works fine in 1.1, but we don't describe the 1.0 behavior.</div> | ||
| <div class="comment-continuation">... To be correct, the algorithm should have a check that makes it behave differently in 1.0 processing mode.</div> | ||
| <div class="comment-continuation">... It should not through an IRI processing error unless processing mode is 1.0.</div> | ||
| <div onmouseout="$('#link-22').hide()" onmouseover="$('#link-22').show()" id="22" class="comment"><span class="name">Gregg Kellogg</span>: Could be considered an editorial change, as it doesn't affect 1.1 behavior. <a id="link-22" style="display:none;" href="#22">✪</a></div> | ||
| <div onmouseout="$('#link-23').hide()" onmouseover="$('#link-23').show()" id="23" class="comment"><span class="name">Pierre-Antoine Champin</span>: There may be some privilege loss that happens automatically. <a id="link-23" style="display:none;" href="#23">✪</a></div> | ||
| <div onmouseout="$('#link-24').hide()" onmouseover="$('#link-24').show()" id="24" class="comment"><span class="name">Niklas Lindström</span>: It's a "formal" issue, but doesn't affect any behavior in the wild I'm aware of. <a id="link-24" style="display:none;" href="#24">✪</a></div> | ||
| <div onmouseout="$('#link-25').hide()" onmouseover="$('#link-25').show()" id="25" class="comment"><span class="name">David I. Lehn</span>: <a href="https://github.com/w3c/json-ld-api/pull/582">https://github.com/w3c/json-ld-api/pull/582</a> <a id="link-25" style="display:none;" href="#25">✪</a></div> | ||
| <div onmouseout="$('#link-26').hide()" onmouseover="$('#link-26').show()" id="26" class="comment"><span class="name">David I. Lehn</span>: In the API there are a couple of things that have been added. <a id="link-26" style="display:none;" href="#26">✪</a></div> | ||
| <div onmouseout="$('#link-27').hide()" onmouseover="$('#link-27').show()" id="27" class="comment"><span class="name">David I. Lehn</span>: <a href="https://github.com/w3c/json-ld-api/pull/585">https://github.com/w3c/json-ld-api/pull/585</a> <a id="link-27" style="display:none;" href="#27">✪</a></div> | ||
| <div onmouseout="$('#link-28').hide()" onmouseover="$('#link-28').show()" id="28" class="information">W3c/json-ld-api#582 <a id="link-28" style="display:none;" href="#28">✪</a></div> | ||
| <div onmouseout="$('#link-29').hide()" onmouseover="$('#link-29').show()" id="29" class="information"><a href="https://github.com/w3c/json-ld-api/issues/582">https://github.com/w3c/json-ld-api/issues/582</a> -> Pull Request 582 Add protected graph container null context test. (by davidlehn) [test:missing-coverage] <a id="link-29" style="display:none;" href="#29">✪</a></div> | ||
| <div onmouseout="$('#link-30').hide()" onmouseover="$('#link-30').show()" id="30" class="information">W3c/json-ld-api#585 <a id="link-30" style="display:none;" href="#30">✪</a></div> | ||
| <div onmouseout="$('#link-31').hide()" onmouseover="$('#link-31').show()" id="31" class="information"><a href="https://github.com/w3c/json-ld-api/issues/585">https://github.com/w3c/json-ld-api/issues/585</a> -> Pull Request 585 Add graph container array tests. (by davidlehn) [test:missing-coverage] <a id="link-31" style="display:none;" href="#31">✪</a></div> | ||
| <div onmouseout="$('#link-32').hide()" onmouseover="$('#link-32').show()" id="32" class="comment"><span class="name">David I. Lehn</span>: 582 Is a case of missing test coverage. <a id="link-32" style="display:none;" href="#32">✪</a></div> | ||
| <div class="comment-continuation">... 585 deals with missing coverge.</div> | ||
| <div onmouseout="$('#link-33').hide()" onmouseover="$('#link-33').show()" id="33" class="comment"><span class="name">David I. Lehn</span>: In some cases, there is some spec work needed. <a id="link-33" style="display:none;" href="#33">✪</a></div> | ||
| <div onmouseout="$('#link-34').hide()" onmouseover="$('#link-34').show()" id="34" class="comment"><span class="name">David I. Lehn</span>: In some cases, we need to determine what output should be. <a id="link-34" style="display:none;" href="#34">✪</a></div> | ||
| <h1 onmouseout="$('#link-topic-5').hide()" onmouseover="$('#link-topic-5').show()" id="topic-5" class="topic"> | ||
| Topic: Open Discussion | ||
| <a id="link-topic-5" style="display:none;" href="#topic-5">✪</a></h1> | ||
| <div onmouseout="$('#link-35').hide()" onmouseover="$('#link-35').show()" id="35" class="comment"><span class="name">David I. Lehn</span>: Regarding the website, I've talked with bigbluehat about using a different infrastructure to manage the site. <a id="link-35" style="display:none;" href="#35">✪</a></div> | ||
| <div class="comment-continuation">... Previous change requests were for the bootstrap version, but it broke stuff. I think the right way to go is to update the static-site generation softward.</div> | ||
| <div class="comment-continuation">... The PHP proxy doesn't work right, and should be hosted elsewhere. It's hard to mix both static and dynamiting things together.</div> | ||
| <div class="comment-continuation">... Minutes take too much space, and we need to figure out how to manage.</div> | ||
| <div class="comment-continuation">... Also, the playground needs work and needs to be done differently to be able to maintain it.</div> | ||
| <div onmouseout="$('#link-36').hide()" onmouseover="$('#link-36').show()" id="36" class="comment"><span class="name">Benjamin Young</span>: When I worked on this over 7 years ago, we got partly converted to Jekyl, but got hung up. <a id="link-36" style="display:none;" href="#36">✪</a></div> | ||
| <div class="comment-continuation">... I wanted to see if we can go through 11P on a case-by-case basis.</div> | ||
| <div class="comment-continuation">... The biggest piece to take care of is the playground.</div> | ||
| <div class="comment-continuation">... DB needs to spend time focusing on this.</div> | ||
| <div class="comment-continuation">... It would be helpful for people to be able to review PRs.</div> | ||
| <div onmouseout="$('#link-37').hide()" onmouseover="$('#link-37').show()" id="37" class="comment"><span class="name">Niklas Lindström</span>: I can also give encouragement; I haves a bit more time to work on JavaScript related things and may be able to help with some of the work. <a id="link-37" style="display:none;" href="#37">✪</a></div> | ||
| <div class="comment-continuation">... We have a lot of experience with related technologies.</div> | ||
| <div onmouseout="$('#link-38').hide()" onmouseover="$('#link-38').show()" id="38" class="comment"><span class="name">Benjamin Young</span>: Rewriting the playground would be hard, and we should try to iterate it, maybe with a package manager. <a id="link-38" style="display:none;" href="#38">✪</a></div> | ||
| <div class="comment-continuation">... The playground could also go on a sub-domain, which could make it easier to host.</div> | ||
| <div class="comment-continuation">... The only bit that's not static is a proxy for CORS.</div> | ||
| <div class="comment-continuation">... The minutes could be moved somewhere as well.</div> | ||
| <div class="comment-continuation">... We can't screw up things too much either.</div> | ||
| <div onmouseout="$('#link-39').hide()" onmouseover="$('#link-39').show()" id="39" class="comment"><span class="name">David I. Lehn</span>: If people want to start on new Playground things we need to coordinate. <a id="link-39" style="display:none;" href="#39">✪</a></div> | ||
| <div onmouseout="$('#link-40').hide()" onmouseover="$('#link-40').show()" id="40" class="information">Gkellogg next meeting on February 7th. <a id="link-40" style="display:none;" href="#40">✪</a></div> | ||
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