2012.05.17 Weekly Check In

• 13:32 <demory> say, its check-in time!
• 13:32 <demory> shall we get started?
• 13:32 <kpw_> demory, thanks!
• 13:33 <demory> sure -- perhaps the graph will be ready after we finish the check in!
• 13:33 <demory> my update: mainly working on this demo of the planned nyc bikeshare system using otp. look for something public soon!
• 13:33 <demory> btw, lots of front-end work being done for this that should evolve into a more general new otp webapp
• 13:34 <FrankP> demory ... mobile web browser compatable too?
• 13:35 <novalis_dt> I've been working on random bugs reported by users. I just noticed, however, that we had gotten a little sloppy with our use of GeometryFactory, so I just cleaned that up.
• 13:36 <novalis_dt> And Andew and I have been thinking about more general memory improvements
• 13:36 <novalis_dt> Most of which, unfortunately, are just working around Java's weakness.
• 13:38 <FrankP> I've fixed a few issues with the UI...also met with customer service folks this week (field trips). Interesting thing, routing wise, they need a booking system (internal tool, maybe external) that can block out trips (or trip segments), where a previous school fieldtrip has been booked.
• 13:38 <novalis_dt> BTW, FrankP and mele, I've been thinking hard about this bike-walking thing, and I still don't have a good solution
• 13:39 <mele> that's okay, just keep thinking. :) the request came from kind of a bike-celebrity over here so it would be nice to get it to work right
• 13:39 <novalis_dt> Yep
• 13:39 <novalis_dt> For humans, it's clear, but for the machine, much less so
• 13:39 <mele> yeah
• 13:40 <FrankP> simple thinker asks, can't just jack up the penalty to dismount / mount the bike
• 13:40 <novalis_dt> Last time we messed with this, we ended up going a very long way around to avoid a bridge
• 13:40 <novalis_dt> Or, more generally, to avoid walking the first/last half-block
• 13:41 <novalis_dt> The parameter was tuned more-or-less correctly until we started getting more crosswalks etc
• 13:42 <novalis_dt> Also, there are bikeable crosswalks and sidewalks
• 13:42 <novalis_dt> which make things worse
• 13:43 <demory> FrankP, yes, this ui should be more mobile-friendly than the current one
• 13:44 <mele> yay for mobile-friendly!
• 13:44 <FrankP> what api(s) does it use?
• 13:45 <novalis_dt> Leaflet, at least
• 13:46 <demory> leaflet for the mapping, jquery (+ ui) under the hood
• 13:46 <FrankP> think we could use jQuery mobile for both desktop & mobile?
• 13:46 <demory> leaflet has capability for mobile optimizations that I still need to look in to
• 13:46 <demory> the initial focus is on the desktop
• 13:47 <FrankP> yeah, I see maps that work with both touch and mouse with leaflet...wasn't sure it was doing that automatically, or...
• 13:47 <kpw_> demory, some mobile optimziation underway now!
• 13:47 <demory> FrankP, haven't worked w/ JQuery mobile
• 13:47 <demory> does it replace JQ UI?
• 13:48 <demory> kpw_, awesome
• 13:49 <FrankP> you still include the jquery core library, then use the mobile stuff. it has more limited widgets & windows...but those limits can be a good thing...
• 13:50 <FrankP> I like the idea of having a single UI for both web and desktop. maybe it's unrealistic though.
• 13:51 <demory> well we're currently making very limited use of the jquery ui stuff, so it might be feasible to drop in the mobile library instead
• 13:51 <FrankP> fwiw, this was done with jquery mobile (beta version last year): http://maps5.trimet.org/bh/m.html
• 13:51 <mele> oh no our old project.. haha
• 13:52 <mele> FrankP I have something similar I just finished building off of it to show you sometime
• 13:53 <demory> btw, this is that nyc bikeshare demo (and new ui): http://cibi.me/
• 13:53 <demory> still a work in progress, but it's getting there!
• 13:54 <FrankP> one last question on the new ui: any plans to change the localization (e.g., use the portable objects)?
• 13:55 <demory> we're sort of putting off localization until the next rev of this (i.e. after the initial launch of this NYC demo)
• 13:56 <demory> but we definitely want to put some real thought into that
• 13:56 <demory> and make sure we're doing whatever is most up to date w/ that
• 13:57 <demory> i'm certainly open to specific input / suggestions there -- localization isn't really an area of expertise for me
• 13:58 <FrankP> cool. the url (port) got firewalled from my desktop, but my iPhone worked well. Looks really good.
• 13:58 <kpw_> frankp, what port?
• 13:58 <kpw_> we must be doing something wrong...
• 13:58 <FrankP> oh forget it, that port is from websense: http://172.25.90.50:15871/cgi-bin/blockpage.cgi?ws-session=3221339553
• 13:59 <FrankP> kpw_, not your wrong...that silly firewall we have here is wrong. probably doesn't like the .me domain
• 14:00 <mele> frank you can visit it from http://nyc-bike.deployer.opentripplanner.org/#/ too
• 14:04 <demory> anything else for the check in?
• 14:04 <novalis_dt> Nothing here
• 14:05 <abyrd> just updated the Analyst demo to 0.7.5
• 14:05 <demory> yes, thanks -- deployer is updated, rebuilding the nyc bikeshare graph now
• 14:06 <demory> that should fix some of the trips that aren't planning right now
• 14:07 <demory> oh, also, mark your calendars for an OTP webinar hosted by CUTR on the 31st, two weeks from today
• 14:07 <demory> 1 pm ET -- it will likely pre-empt our check in that week
• 14:07 <novalis_dt> Ok, we'll reschedule